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please advise you lot blinds were 150-300 and i'm in middle position with 10,000 there is one caller before me. I raise 800 and it gets folded to the button who reraises 2400 the sb and bb both fold as does the caller. I call the other 1600. Flop comes 10 high rainbow with low cards the others. I raise 3000 (pot was 6000) at this time and the button puts me all in for the remainder of my stack which is 4500. I think I'm committed and call he shows ppQ's and I don't hit my set and bust out. I've thought about it and I don't see a way out other than folding to his reraise as I thought it was a good flop for me. What do you think? his stack was double mine.
 
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Bad flop for you...problem was that you should never have bet the 800 "out of position" ... at best, maybe a call, but never a raise and never a re-raise with that flop. Under the circumstances, since you did not hit your set, you should have folded even if you'd had JJ. You got yourself committed was your error. Just my opinion. GL, Wally
 
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please advise you lot blinds were 150-300 and i'm in middle position with 10,000 there is one caller before me. I raise 800 and it gets folded to the button who reraises 2400 the sb and bb both fold as does the caller. I call the other 1600. Flop comes 10 high rainbow with low cards the others. I raise 3000 (pot was 6000) at this time and the button puts me all in for the remainder of my stack which is 4500. I think I'm committed and call he shows ppQ's and I don't hit my set and bust out. I've thought about it and I don't see a way out other than folding to his reraise as I thought it was a good flop for me. What do you think? his stack was double mine.

Probably would have folded pre-flop after the re-raise, way too many hands that you are either an underdog to or at best a coin flip. I'm not sure what type of tourney you were in but generally, if someone reraises a big pre-flop raise, they are usually beating pocket 99's.

When you say "raise" post flop, do you mean bet or had the villain come out betting?

If he came out betting, probably was a mistake to raise. If he checked and you bet, you bet too much. If you came out betting 3000, out of position, post flop with over cards on the board, huge mistake for that many chips.
 
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thanks for the reply guys but tell me why not raise with 99's with only 5 players to act behind me? I've prob' got the best hand and the raise will discourage any callers as 99's I don't mind taking the blinds. I raised first villain reraised my raise. I think fold is the best option here after his reraise?
 
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thanks for the reply guys but tell me why not raise with 99's with only 5 players to act behind me? I've prob' got the best hand and the raise will discourage any callers as 99's I don't mind taking the blinds. I raised first villain reraised my raise. I think fold is the best option here after his reraise?

there are many ways to play this. it also depends on where i am at, and with who i am playing with at the table. if someone did re-raise my bet with pocket nines then there a good chance that hey have pocket pair stronger then yours. depends on the re-raise amount i might call then if the flop i hit a set then your more likely to get paid off. but if the flop did not help and there a big bet on more likely he has a better overpair and your just best off to just fold it

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seems like your deep stacked. if the button has a big stack it would be ok to call and set mine but if hes short stacked i would just fold. being oop sucks.
 
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thanks for the reply guys but tell me why not raise with 99's with only 5 players to act behind me? I've prob' got the best hand and the raise will discourage any callers as 99's I don't mind taking the blinds. I raised first villain reraised my raise. I think fold is the best option here after his reraise?

That is a lot of people behind you and 3 of them have position on you post-flop

well I think that the raise was ok although with a limper ahead I would probably just limp then assuming its cheap call a raise to set-mine then be ready to ditch if I dont hit.

The big mistake in my opinion was the call of the reraise. You still have a pretty decent M for that stage of the tourney move on to a better spot.
 
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