Pot size and dealing with draw chasers

Is it better to try to raise and get as much money into the pot against draws or keep it small?

you wanna raise and not give the drawing hands the odds to call, bet half to 3/4 of the pot. Usually if your drawing you need to be getting 4:1 on your money. If you like to chase you can take 3:1 lol

you ALWAYS want to raise and make them pay to ever see,
let alone hit their card.

when a flop comes its best to raise, if you get a caller, only 1 mind you and the turn comes, bet the pot you have created, if he folds chances are he was on a draw, you can pick up a crap load of chips this way

I think you almost always want to raise. How MUCH is a matter of how many callers you're hoping to get...

always raise. You want them folding.

lcid86 said:

always raise. You want them folding.

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Not true. You want to encourage chasers at the right price. They are your bankroll's best friend.

gkh said:

Is it better to try to raise and get as much money into the pot against draws or keep it small?

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If you don't charge them to chase, then it's your own fault if they hit.

This assumes that you have a made hand to begin with, and that you can fold when it's obvious that they did hit.

Standard raise in a tournament/SnG situation might be just over 1/2 pot. In a cash game if the stacks are bigger you might want to go closer to 3/4 to full pot because of the larger implied odds with the bigger stacks.

Odds of filling the flush are just over 4 to 1, so if you bet 50 into a 100 pot, a single opponent has to put 50 in to win 150 so they aren't getting odds to call, again assuming that you don't pay them off when it does hit. It gets trickier if you have more than one opponent still in the hand as if one calls, it gives then next one better odds.

You make money when your opponent makes mistakes. If he chases flush draws against the odds, then you're winning in the longer term. If you don't bet enough and give him odds to chase, then you're making the mistake.

Be aggressive at this point and raise 3/4 of the pot.

bubbasbestbabe said:

Not true. You want to encourage chasers at the right price. They are your bankroll's best friend.

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Yeah, you don't necessarily want them folding but you don't mind if they do. Raise though for sure and, indeed, your bankroll will thank you. I was watching PAD earlier and saw Antonio Esfandiari check twice with pocket aces and let a 10 high flush draw hit and he had to insta-fold.

I have been thinking about this for a while now and have always been worried about making the pot too big and offering my opponent great implied odds. This isn't necessarily how to play your hand, just some food for thought.

The thing is, if you know they are on a draw and can safely say that if they aren't then you beat the next likely hand too (so ignore sets for a bit.. either they are on a draw or they aren't.. you have to decide which) then the key is to bet big. at least 3/4 pot and maybe even pot sized.

You see the more you bet the quicker your stack diminishes. So even if they hit on the river and shove, the shove will not be big enough to reclaim the mistake they made by calling when they were behind.

It sounds kind of strange at first, but you bet a pot sized bet on the turn, and they call, even if they hit they are still behind in the LR as they have to make that up to 4:1 through implied odds. If you haven't got enough left in your stack to pay a bet big enough to give them 4:1 implied odds on the tun, then they never recover from the mistake.

So certain stack sizes can be played in such a way that you get enough of your money in by the turn that even if you call a river bet you aren't making a LR mistake.