FromHereOn
Enthusiast
Silver Level
Hi all,
Some interesting hands I've been in lately are challenging my perception of how literal to apply pot and implied odds.
Question 1: Do pot odds apply more literally heads-up than with multiple hands?
Question 2:
Long term, does tampering with pot/implied odds using 'common sense/experience' have the better EV?
-or-
Does the chip position in a tournament from taking one of these monster pots down make it worthwhile to gamble? Are these hands good to fold in a cash-game and not in a tournament? Thanks for any advice!
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Here are some hands that are shaking my understanding:
(All preflop hands all-in with similar stacks)
Hand 1
Hero: A7o 34%
Villain A: A3o 41%
Villain B: 22 25%
Hero has proper pot odds to call here but I think I'd rather fold due to not being the most likely of 3 to win, and missing one A! Shove or fold?
Hand 2
Hero: AQo 28%
Villain A: KJo 26%
Villain B: 55 18%
Villain C: 99 28%
I really expect AQ to lose here simply considering 4 hands are squaring off. 28% shows this to be a reasonable call, especially considering the opportunity to quadruple up.
**These bizarre hands are the products of freerolls most often, but certainly have made me reconsider some general philosophy that I'd like to apply forward to real games.
Some interesting hands I've been in lately are challenging my perception of how literal to apply pot and implied odds.
Question 1: Do pot odds apply more literally heads-up than with multiple hands?
Question 2:
Long term, does tampering with pot/implied odds using 'common sense/experience' have the better EV?
-or-
Does the chip position in a tournament from taking one of these monster pots down make it worthwhile to gamble? Are these hands good to fold in a cash-game and not in a tournament? Thanks for any advice!
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Here are some hands that are shaking my understanding:
(All preflop hands all-in with similar stacks)
Hand 1
Hero: A7o 34%
Villain A: A3o 41%
Villain B: 22 25%
Hero has proper pot odds to call here but I think I'd rather fold due to not being the most likely of 3 to win, and missing one A! Shove or fold?
Hand 2
Hero: AQo 28%
Villain A: KJo 26%
Villain B: 55 18%
Villain C: 99 28%
I really expect AQ to lose here simply considering 4 hands are squaring off. 28% shows this to be a reasonable call, especially considering the opportunity to quadruple up.
**These bizarre hands are the products of freerolls most often, but certainly have made me reconsider some general philosophy that I'd like to apply forward to real games.