Pocket fours UTG

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Not so complicated situation.
S&G 9-hand table, 7 players left
you get pokcet fours and you are 1st to act, whats your game?
Also UTG what pocket pairs you should play ?
 
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It depends on stack sizes. But as a general rule 10s plus. Pocket 4s are generally mucked for me.
 
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well I was chip leader with around 3500 chips
others had between 1500 and 2500.
I mucked the hand too, but was tempted...
 
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more dependent on the stack at the beginning of a sit, try cleaning with pairs like 44 until you reach TT and TT always increased above about 3 and a half or BB 2BB.como mini raise.
 
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Not so complicated situation.
S&G 9-hand table, 7 players left
you get pokcet fours and you are 1st to act, whats your game?
Also UTG what pocket pairs you should play ?

It depends on stack sizes. But as a general rule 10s plus. Pocket 4s are generally mucked for me.

well I was chip leader with around 3500 chips
others had between 1500 and 2500.
I mucked the hand too, but was tempted...

Gotta push your weight around as the leader on the event.
 
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Why limp isnt the option, why dont you see a flop if it is cheap, if someone raise you can easily fold but if you flop a set you can get lot of chips if someone flops a top pair, from a dry board of course...
 
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Why limp isnt the option, why dont you see a flop if it is cheap, if someone raise you can easily fold but if you flop a set you can get lot of chips if someone flops a top pair, from a dry board of course...

UTG with Pocket 4's, you're in a fold or raise situation this deep into the event.
 
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It's fairly situational, which means that I'd choose different actions depending on the circumstances. For example, limping into weak, passive opponents isn't the same as doing so into aggressive ones. It's also different limping into looser vs tighter players. Taking these factors and others into account, it can be a better choice overall to fold or to open-raise.
 
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It's fairly situational, which means that I'd choose different actions depending on the circumstances. For example, limping into weak, passive opponents isn't the same as doing so into aggressive ones. It's also different limping into looser vs tighter players. Taking these factors and others into account, it can be a better choice overall to fold or to open-raise.
+1 Agreed. The bias among players is circumstantial to the terms denoted.
 
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Make your standard pre-flop bet (which I hope is a raise of 2.5 - 3xBB & go from there.
 
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depends on stack sizes think a raise isn't terrible just as much as a fold is okay. trying to flop a set all the time is not the correct way of thinking as we only will do so little amount of time. if you are short maybe you should fold.
 
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UTG hand reqs. go way up, so mucking them is usually the best play. You are first to act, and don't know if someone else has a strong hand yet.
 
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Just like everyone has said it depends on stacks and how table is playing. Your table image makes a big difference as well. Fold them, I tend to want to open with 88 or better here. Just one guys opinion.
 
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a routine fold.

in your case that you have the chip lead, maybe you can play up a bit, but be cautious. if that's me, that'll be a maybe.
 
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As chip leader I would put pressure on the rest of the table.

Raise!
 
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In that situation I would most likely limp in or raise 2-4xBB if the blinds are low and also it depends on your image. Remember you have 2 outs to make out of the flop which is 11:1 odds (8.33%) to make a set which can win you a huge pot if the table labels you loose. Watch Tony G and look at certain situations where he plays his pocket cards with a loose image racking up a huge pot.
 
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Open with a raise or fold ... I weight both about the same with a small pp in this early position with your chipstack. In earlier levels of a SnG with 9 players and more even stack sizes, I am folding.
 
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raise if your first to act or fold it .If I was chip leader &7 players are left in the game I would bet it.
 
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well I was chip leader with around 3500 chips
others had between 1500 and 2500.
I mucked the hand too, but was tempted...
this is a fold!
It is important what the 'effective stack sizes' are... not just our own (because we are virtually playing for their stack, not our's)
You would need to post the stack sizes of ALL players on the table & the size of the blinds (before anyone could give you a reasonable answer).
ie. it might be an open-shove... but more likely it's a fold (it depends! on the info. you have missing in this post)
 
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All the responses who are blindly saying 'Raise' are incorrect imo (especially for the reasons given).
We don't know the other's stack sizes... we are likely pricing ourselves in on re-shoves & in a SNG there's a good chance this would be terrible re: ICM
(and honestly they are fairly rookie-ish mistakes)
 
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Not so complicated situation.
S&G 9-hand table, 7 players left
you get pokcet fours and you are 1st to act, whats your game?
Also UTG what pocket pairs you should play ?
You will get far better responses if you learn how to post a handhistory question correctly (with sufficient info.)
Include all stack sizes & positions of each player. Blind size. Player reads.
 
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Not so complicated situation.
S&G 9-hand table, 7 players left
you get pokcet fours and you are 1st to act, whats your game?
Also UTG what pocket pairs you should play ?

If I'm deep i make easy raise flop, if somebody reraise me then I makes a call and try to hit a set (but I fold to some all ins). If I'm short stack I probably fold. IT depends how short I'm, if I'm very short stack I go all in, if my position is for example 4-5 on 7 players, I would fold 44 and wait a better situtation like 99+.
 
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as you want , u can make a raise utg with big stack , not sure that opponents want to risk a big part of stack vs u ( thats depend of the table style / is there maniacs ).middle stack or short i fold usually.
 
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stack size dependent, opponent dependent

deep limp or raise -shallow fold or shove
 
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