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What i want to know is how many of you have been sucked out on slow playing pockit aces trying to bild trhe pot? I have been alot should you bet big and win little or is slow playing aces smart playing?:eek:
 
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It is never a good idea to slow play anything imo.
The only time I woud attempt to do it, is if there was some aggro monkey at the table betting for me.
 
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Get the money in, dont slowplay or you wont win much. Cant remember how many times I've lost with aces must be in the hundreds or thousands.
 
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I used to try slow play big hands when I first started poker but quickly found it's the worse possible way of playing the hands.
 
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Slowplaying doesn't build pots. Putting money in the middle builds pots. I am afraid that was your mistake. Slowplaying (outside of the absolute nuts) just allows your referred to suckout.

Play your aces like aces and hardly anyone will believe you. That's how you build that pot.
 
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The only time you should slow play your aces is if everyone folds and you're on the button. You should make a medium size raise. That would hopefully push the small blind or the big blind out. Then you would be heads up. You would then stand a better chance of slow playing your aces.
 
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I will slow play them (from time to time if circumstances are good) at the end of a tourney with 3 or less players.
 
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Play your aces like aces and hardly anyone will believe you.

This is SO TRUE! Many of my last thoughts as I get dumped from a tourney is "He hasn't got it!" ha ha THanks MB, you are right in with your advice.:D
 
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Sucked out while holding AA? Never happened to me before. Must just be me.
 
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Pocket Aces. The best starting hand in poker. But that is all it is. best at first. In the end it is still only 2 cards. As Doyle says it well. It should be the only hand you would be willing to go all the way with preflop against a shove. It will always depend on the time and place with aces. Whether to limp, to raise, to reraise. Pocket rockets are actually not even good cards to see a flop with multiple opponents in already. but so many players seem to think they are invincible. just cause they are aces doesn't mean they are unbeatable. Think about your players at the table, the position you are in, the chip stacks, anything can tell them aces to hit the road. In the end they are only 2 cards. Best at first but that could change after 3 cards. ;)
 
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I try not to slow play them, but when i raise before the flop i will make my usual standard raise or slightly higher.
Im just a beginner, but i find that whenever i slowplay i get less money into the pot than i would like, or a scare card hits that would stop everyone from betting.
 
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I play them the same way i play sayyyy a set on a draw heavy board if someone wants to chase thats fine but im gunna make them pay to do it.. AA is always the best hand preflop so every hand is drawing to try to beat you so i make them pay to try to beat me...
 
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The aces are perfect for an all-in. Not that good postflop though . We are still playing for odds. If you slowplay them you simply give the opponents the odds to complete their hands.
Bet, Bet, Bet.
 
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I rarely ever slow play aces preflop... sometimes i like to under the gun but i only do that if theres a person I can count on for a late position raise and even then i don't like to do it. If i've learned one thing... slow playing hands gets you caught probably 50% of the time... you give them one card for free... it's like a discount to the last card... they think "well i didnt have to pay for the 1st one so i'll buy the 2nd) and then your hand gets beat by the suckout! bet bet bet bet bet and bet some more! NO FREE CARDS (unless u got quads lol but even then you should at least min bet to build a pot)
 
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Yeah it is rarely the best play to slowplay them, however, I have done it with great success in some late stages of tournaments where players are desperate to stay in or win pots, they will interpret your checks as weakness and shove to steal the pot if it is in the later stages of a tourney, but beware of waiting to the river to do this, cuz then the suckouts are bound to happen.
 
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I like to play them fast and agressive before the flop, with a big raise or re-raise. I find it also fine to make a large bet on the flop on most boards. However if you are called or raised at this point, its time to re-assess the situation. A lot of players will call you down with their top pair (in which case your AA will be good), and youll win a nice pot. However most of the time youll be up against 2pair, a set or a monster draw that will get there more often that not. At the end of the day its down to your read, in reality how often is just one pair the winning by the time the river falls?.
So my advice is play pre-flop and flop hard and fast, but it time to slow down as soon as you meet resistance. Dont fall into the trap of thinking youre invincible with AA in the hole! GL.
 
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The only time to slow play AA is when villain is a maniac who interprets every check as weakness and bets everything.

Ideally you want to get the entire stack in preflop.

You must also know to slow down or fold if the board looks dangerous and you're against aggression.

So basically try to get everything in the middle preflop or on the flop, and slow down if the turn and river looks dangerous.

AA is very vulnerable after the flop. Don't be that guy who plays it passively preflop, on the flop, and turn, and only to go crazy on the river when villain suddenly shows strength.
 
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We've all had Aces cracked a time or a thousand. The thing is that your odds of winning, even with Aces, drops sharply with each player that comes into the pot. So raising to limit the number of players getting involved in the pot is essential. Remember, the perception of value from having more players in the pot is an illusion. One player calling a 3x raise is adding the same amount of chips to the pot as three players limping.

I try to play every hand the same way, so as not to give away the strength of my hand, with Aces being the exception. With most of my range, I'm going to raise 3x + 1x for each limper in front of me up to 5x. With Aces, however, I will generally raise 3x + 1x for each limper in front of me with no limit, or I may even double the pot if there are too many players trying to get involved. No slow play, though.

How I play Aces after the flop will depend on a number of factors like board texture, the number of players in the hand, position, and the style of my opponent or opponents. I hate to give anyone a free card to beat me with, but on the right board, I might check/raise as opposed to leading right out.
 
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What i want to know is how many of you have been sucked out on slow playing pockit aces trying to bild trhe pot? I have been alot should you bet big and win little or is slow playing aces smart playing?:eek:

For the most part slow playing gets you less money in the long run. With A/A, ideally you want to get as much money as you can in pre-flop while getting only one or two callers.
Pocket Aces is only one pair, and most people aren't going to put in a lot of money with one pair. If they have an overpair on the flop you might get a big pot, but if that's the case then they would have called a raise pre-flop.

With pocket Aces you'll win a lot of small pots and lose a lot of big ones.

I'm not saying that slow playing is always bad. If people are being aggressive then you can slow play and hope to be re-raised. You have to be willing to let your "only one pair" had go post-flop though.

Here's a CC game where I slow played A/A (check out the replay):
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Ideally you want to get the entire stack in preflop.

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I'm not a really big fan of shoving pre-flop. You definitely don't want to open shove and risk not getting any value out of those pocket rockets. You should absolutely be raising, though. If the pot is raised in front of you, you should be 3-betting. If someone 3-bets you, fire a 4-bet. When you feel your opponent has shown enough commitment to the pot, or you feel there are enough chips in it to satisfy you, push your stack in.
 
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I might min bet AA UTG and then reraise big to any raise behind me. Other than that it is always a big bet to isolate one hand before the flop. If you slowplay and miss, you will always overvalue the AA. AA is a big pair, but it is only a pair post flop and is not a pat hand. Get as much in as you can preflop with AA
 
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The general rule is to bet A/A, because slow playing often leads to a big loss.
If you can fold post-flop and the table is aggressive (so your limp is likely to get raised, and your re-raise is likely to get called) then you can limp.
But again, post-flop it us usually just one pair, and you have to be able to let one pair go.

So you should usually raise.
 
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I NEVER slow play pocket aces, it never works out. I wouldn't recommend it. Make a big bet pre if the flop hits blanks like 2 4 6 make another large raise
 
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Slow playing them not the way to go you won't build pots. All that really does is bring more players into the pot and decrease your chance of winning. Unless you flopped quads and have donks calling everything u post don't slow play. Even then you should go all-in.
 
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