Pocket AA preflop Live Cash $1/2

Say you limp in with AA UTG; UTG +1 raises to $7 and gets 5 callers... When the bet comes back to you what is the ideal amount you wanna raise at a pretty loose table and how many callers are you looking to get preferably pre-flop with the rockets?

Repop it to $60.

The more people that come in the merrier. Don't make it cheap for them to come in though even if you know they are going to fold.

When you see a flop never fold, because SPR will be at most 1 assuming that you have about a $200 stack. With one caller there will be roughly $120 in the middle and you will have $140 left.

The more people that call the better. You have a greater chance of losing with more people in the pot, but your expectation also increases. In the long run you'll make more money.

All depends on stack sizes and playing styles of those at the table. Lacking any other pertinent info then $60 is good.

Btw you should not limp with pocket Aces,it kinda risky and you could end up with nothing.

If you limp with pocket AA UTG with the intention of reraising, make sure your table is loose, make sure you've established a loose image as well. If you haven't limp-raised all game than you've already screwed up.

Assuming your table is loose, and you've limp-raised with hands like QJ, KJ already and they know about it, $40-60 is a good range. Know everyone's limits. Know roughly how many callers you're going to get with your bet. The limp-raise UTG is a great move, but most players won't do it unless they have KK or AA, which results in them never getting paid. If I hadn't had a chance to limp raise yet, I would've just tripled or quadrupled the blinds UTG here depending on the tendancies at the table.

With no info on stacks, like everyone else said.

I am probably making it 55 just cause

If there are already 5 callers in at $7 each, I would definitely make it expensive to go...$55 would be bare minimum. I once had AA in small blind and saw 4 callers of a $15 raise. I didn't want more than one call so I bumped it to $100. Got a call from QQ with $130 in their stack. He didn't think I would do that with aces and figured he was ahead.

I would rather win a small pot with AA and make a really big raise. You will only get called with premium hands like queens, kings, maybe AK. It really depends on table and your table image.

You want to make as big as possible so you wont give them great odds to crack your hand but at the same time you dont want to make it too much because you may lose value , i dont know how much they are capable to call live , a shove wouldnt be too bad either.

da_goat said:

If there are already 5 callers in at $7 each, I would definitely make it expensive to go...$55 would be bare minimum. I once had AA in small blind and saw 4 callers of a $15 raise. I didn't want more than one call so I bumped it to $100. Got a call from QQ with $130 in their stack. He didn't think I would do that with aces and figured he was ahead.

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This is my usual play with AA because I would rather win w/e amount than lose a decent amount with them because I slow rolled it.. Anyways ended up raising to $31 in this situation and got no callers.. Was hoping the weird number would get me some callers

donkcentralFF said:

Say you limp in with AA UTG

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Why? I'm not saying there aren't any situations where limping AA pre MIGHT be acceptable, but think of it this way...

You'll be correct 100% of the time when raising with AA preflop, and you'll be incorrect >99% of the time when limping with AA preflop.

It's an extremely unbalanced play, and you'll never make any money off an experienced reg by doing it. You're basically turning your cards face up.

I'm assuming this is at a 9 seat table? I never limp AA UTG in a 6 handed game, not usually enough action to get a raise then you're stuck with others playing an extremely wide variety of hands against your AA. I personally like limping with AA UTG although I don't play it the same way every time. I would say with there already being at least $37 in the pot when it got back to you, I would shove. I say this being knowing the table image I would already have going, people would know I would make this play with QQ, KK, AA, or even AK. More likely for me to get a call in the situation because I play premium hands differently all the time.

So busted some guys pockets AAs, having position with 72suited lol it was hilarious

First, don't limp UTG with AA EVER AGAIN!!!!!!!!!

Second, as played, I would 3 bet to $60-70. You just turned your cards face up here. If I'm one of the V's, I can't throw my hand away fast enough.

How big would you normally raise here?
How many callers would you expect to get with that raise?

Limping AA is really not a great idea most of the time, particularly from UTG. Reason being, you're devaluing the strength of your hand. The results will be either reduced equity with a lot of callers, or in this situation: reduced maximum value.

Your UTG +1 raised to $7. In a live game that's generally indicative of a speculative hand +value. 66, 77, 88 (speculating on hitting a set), TJs, JQs, KQs, or A-Rag suited. From early position, A-Rag suited is most likely, but sometimes people will min raise pre-flop with other speculative hands. Logic here is that they can cheaply inflate the pot against multiple players and then get exponentially more value post flop. I'm of the opinion that this isn't a great play from early position, but people do it.

Everyone else limped simply for the fact that there's now decent pot odds. Every J8 and Q7 is coming along for the ride.

Now you're in a situation where if you raise too low you're against a huge range of cards and going to the flop out of position. So that's no good. And if you raise too high, everyone folds out. Unfortunately, there isn't much middle ground here, so overall your best option is to raise big and take the pot down. That's ok, $40 ain't bad.

Now if you opened $10-$14 (depending on the table) you're much more likely to get only one or two callers, and maybe a couple streets of value.

crow27 said:

First, don't limp UTG with AA EVER AGAIN!!!!!!!!!

Second, as played, I would 3 bet to $60-70. You just turned your cards face up here. If I'm one of the V's, I can't throw my hand away fast enough.

How big would you normally raise here?
How many callers would you expect to get with that raise?

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Its not like i was going 2 play them like a million dollar hand if nobody raised lol...

I agree with most of the posters, but I would also like to add one more piece.
How I play would also depend on my stack size. If I was short stacked (less than $50), then I would shove for sure, when the play came back to me. This is a $50 bet into a $35 pot. Likely to get several callers, and odds aren't too bad that you would double or triple your stack.
If I had 100BB ($200) or an average stack, then I would probably raise it to $50. If I had one or two callers, the pot will now be $100 to $150. Depending on the board, I would then bet half the pot, and make the decision about staying around after seeing how other players react to my bet.
If I was the big stack, I would raise the same ($50), but post flop, I would be looking at the stack size of my opponents, I would bet enough that they would THINK they may have to commit the rest of their stack if they stay in. Then I would continue to play with that knowledge.

donkcentralFF said:

Its not like i was going 2 play them like a million dollar hand if nobody raised lol...

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I'm trying to help you. But if that's the mentality you have at the table, then I hope to see you one day. I'll be the guy with what used to be your stack.

I got just absolutely blasted (rightly so) in another forum for taking a weak/passive line with a premium hand. After talking though the hand, I figured out that it was my thinking/MENTALITY at the time that was the root of the problem. Point is, I learned what my mistake was and I'm sure as hell not gonna make that same mistake again. You need to be able to take criticism and learn from your mistakes if you ever want to get better. It doesn't matter what level you play at.

By the way, do you have an answer for my 2 questions?

in this particularly situation I think some consideration could be given to simply shoving. It does sort of look like AA but it could KK or AK as well. There's already almost $40 in the pot. If you see a flop with 3 or more players, unless you boat up or they are horrible players, you probably will lose the pot. If you don't want to scare them off, i'd pop it to around $72. The reason I want to make it big is I'm likely only getting called by TT+ Doubt you will see any suited connectors, gappers, etc etc. Limp raising looks like AA. If you do it with suited connectors and pocket pairs etc, it could balance your range a bit but when I see an utg limp, I'm always thinking AA, possibly KK. If i were one of your opponents, i would have definitely called your $31 raise to see if i couldn't hit the flop and stack you. If i miss, i can fold easily but just same, I know what you have so why not try and beat it.

if you want to make a bluff and limp with AA, I think you can do in UTG only at a tight table, if table is loose you can try it in mid position, if you get too much limpers you can have problems, you often will loose against 2 pairs or a litle straight or flush, I think you should always make a raise, if flop will be wet and you will have a lot of opponents you will loose in many cases, and the best option will be to fold your rockets, so only raise or call in Cutt-off or button. but if you just called and you have many limpers and someone raised it's better to 3 bet and put for all who are there an amount equall to bet, in finall to take pot right away will be a good option and if someone calls it's a good signal too, because you will play against a predictible hand: AK, AQ, KK, QQ, and in not too many cases JJ and AA

If table is loose ,I would say go all in hoping that only 1 or 2 opponents call.If you slowplay pre-flop then there will be too many players to see the flop and there is a chance for their odds to improve

donkcentralFF said:

This is my usual play with AA because I would rather win w/e amount than lose a decent amount with them because I slow rolled it.. Anyways ended up raising to $31 in this situation and got no callers.. Was hoping the weird number would get me some callers

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I think you have confused slow-playing and slow-rolling. They are not remotely similar. If you're interested in using poker vernacular correctly, look them both up.

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