Please help me control my bad beat!!!!

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What are the advices for adjusting to bad beats? Yesterday, I was playing 5/10 and I was dealt pocket 6s(6s6h). Someone raised utg 6 times the blind with AKo(AcKh) two people called, I was small blind, I called because I had over 500 dollars worth of chips. Flop came out Kh 6c 7c. I hit my set while my opponent hit his TPTK(Top Pair, Top Kicker). I checked from small blind. Guy with AKo raises to 100 dollars, one guy called, I reraised all in slightly over 400. Person with AKo called while one of the callers folded because I squeezed him. Turn and River were both clubs. I lost to running flush.

I took a break and re-buy in different table for 300 bucks in 5/10. I was dealt pocket 9s. I was in middle position and one of other middle positions raised with pocket Aces 5 times the blind. I called. Flop came out 9c 2s 5h. I was kinda relieved because they were all different suits and I won't be facing runner flush like last table unless someone had two same suits in their hand. He was overbetting his overpair by raising 10 times the blind. I smooth-called. During turn, 2h came out, giving me a boat(full house). He raised me 15 times the blind which puts me all in. I instant-called. He hits his Ace on the river.

As I was walking out of casino, I literally kicked lot of trash bins out there. I also wanted to kill both of my dealers. I think I have mental problems. I honestly don't think I made any wrong plays. Some people might criticize my pre-flop play but as for flop-river play, I think I played everything perfectly. I couldn't sleep last night and I still can't get over these ridiculous back to back bad beats that happened within less than 2 hours yesterday. My bankroll is solid but I cannot get over this bad beat. What are some advices for relieving bad beats? I am to the point where I want to destroy the essence and game of poker or murder the dealers. I am sorry if I'm freaking everyone in this forum but as for my emotions for facing bad beats, that's how I feel right now.

Anyone wanna give some advices on how to manage bad beats?
 
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Smoke some weed? But seriously just remember that you can still be beat even when your hand is strong. Your play was fine, though a little loose on the pocket sixes. I don't think killing the dealer will change the odds at all!
 
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Know how you feel. At my local casino, playing 1-2 NLH I was dealt 99 in middle position. I raised 5xBB and got 4 callers, including the small blind. The flop came 9-rag-rag giving me the nuts. The small blind surprised me by betting $100 - I had $150 left so I went all in. 3 folded and the SB mulled for awhile but with his larger stack decided to call. We didn't show the cards - the turn and river were T-K. I showed my 99's and then he turned over his TT. I then said good day and left (in the same manner as you did) and haven't been back since (over 1 month ago). This was just a continuation of losses suffered recently. I am taking a break from playing at the casino.
 
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Smoke some weed? But seriously just remember that you can still be beat even when your hand is strong. Your play was fine, though a little loose on the pocket sixes. I don't think killing the dealer will change the odds at all!

I personally think it's not a loose call with pocket 6s when you're small blind. You gotta put up 55 bucks to $195 pot. That's 3.54:1 pot odds. I had 500 bucks or over. I'm spending 11% of my chip stack to seek for a set. Although I'm seeking to hit a set which is only 12%. I think i'm getting good pot odds to call. I knew that big blind was gonna fold since he's very tight-passive player who rarely raised and mostly check/folded the pre-flop on his blinds. So I considered him dead action and I considered myself last person to act during pre-flop. I was seeking implied odds, which exactly came out the way I wanted until turn and river flushed my whole chip stack.

It's unbelievable how I can hit set twice within 2 hours in casino and get my whole bankroll flushed away to running cards or silly 2-outers. Just pisses me off. Just feels like God hates me or something. How can outers work for someone very often back to back?
 
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Wow those are some tough beats... and sort of back to back, that really sucks. It isn't much help now, but swings are common and taking a break for the night (maybe longer) is usually my approach. If that was your whole BR then I understand the major frustration you must be feeling. It sounds like you have a good grasp of the game. Keep it up and you'll beat the odds of getting sucked out on. "God hates no man/woman"
 
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wow

That is truly unreal. I am sorry that happened to you. Two sets and both losses on the river. Sometimes when i get a really bad beat, I get frustrated and then i play at higher stakes and lose even more. I should really learn to just take a break and cool off. I think that is what everyone should do when taking a bad beat, just cool down and let things be for a little while. Find a place that will relax you.
 
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Let me enlighten you on something... When you are angrey or fustrated
your whole game is affected. Poker isnt just about making the right plays!
Poker is also the reading and hiding of emotions. Being able to analise
the situations and to trick others into believing something that isnt real.
When you lost your first buyin, I would have suggested that you go outside
for a nice walk, maybe even finish up for the day and go to your girlfriends
house. That way in the morning you would be ready for another game and
wouldnt be on tilt. And eveeenn if you werent on tilt, you were angry
and an angry player is a revealing player.
 
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I'm not going to tell you bad beats don't hurt because they do.

But honestly speaking, you should be happy with yourself for being able to put all your money in the middle and getting someone to call in such bad shape. You were over 90% to win that hand after all the money hit the middle so you played that hand great. Try to look at the decisions and not the results. As long as the decisions are correct, the results will take care of themselves.

Honestly, the only times you should be upset with poker or yourself is when you make bad decisions. So, yes, I know it's hard but forget actual results and look at the decision making. Be happy or upset based on that.
 
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What are the advices for adjusting to bad beats? Yesterday, I was playing 5/10

Do you have at least $30000 that you can feel fine about losing playing poker? If you don't, at 5/10 you're just playing way above your means and variance is very likely to make you go busto regardless of how good you play. Especially since you only play 30 or 50bb deep which means skill edges are pretty slim.
 
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I think you manage them quite well actually, you took a break after the first beat and than quit after the second.

And of course you're feeling pissed I don't even play 5/10 and I feel angry after a beat so does everybody.

Just don't keep playing when you're angry and don't kill the dealer :)
 
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Do you have at least $30000 that you can feel fine about losing playing poker? If you don't, at 5/10 you're just playing way above your means and variance is very likely to make you go busto regardless of how good you play. Especially since you only play 30 or 50bb deep which means skill edges are pretty slim.

No. I dont' have 30k. I barely have 14k now. If I calculate all the money I've spent on leisure, food, entertainment, etc, I probably would have over 20k right now. 800 dollars got flushed and boated away in less than 2 hours. My worst day ever in poker. I'm doing school work, working out in the gym, and trying to forget. Oh, and also, I go to play money on full tilt and go all in with stupid hands just to feel good and excited when I win with the worst hand by going all in because I feel that if someone can suck out on me, I should be able to suck out on people too. But as for the bad beat, I honestly don't feel like playing in casino for a month.

I always buy-in with 300. I manage to do well with it. If I reach anywhere near 1000, I stand up no matter what. That's how I've built my bankroll. In my first bad beat, I won 200 bucks from and then lost that + my buy-in to some donkey with TPTK.

I know I don't have optimal or really good bankroll management but I'm still + because my initial bankroll was 20 bucks. I used my beginner's luck to build it. My first time in casino ever, I won 600 bucks with 20 bucks, I was flopping quads, boats, flushes, and was getting action from everyone and I kept moving up tables after reachign 4 times the buy-in. Instead of spending that 600 on leisure, I kept going there the next day and future and built it to almost 20k(highest I've reached). This took me 1.5 years and played nearly every weekend or once every 2 weeks.

When I go to casino, I only carry 1k(which provides 2 buy-ins and 400 bucks left) or (3 buy-ins and 100 bucks left). I usually try to leave after losing two of my buy-ins. Once in a while, if I lose 2buy-ins, I spend 20-100 bucks by going to micro 1/1 NHLE $20 buy-in as a indicator of my status. If I lose several buy-ins from there, then it proves that I'm on tilt. If I'm winning from there, then I just keep playing.

I'm a weird guy who plays in very unorthodox way compared to other people. But this is how I built it. I can't guarantee how long I'm gonna last using this method or keep doing well using this method. But so far, I like my way of managing bankroll.
 
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It's unbelievable how I can hit set twice within 2 hours in casino and get my whole bankroll flushed away to running cards or silly 2-outers. Just pisses me off. Just feels like God hates me or something. How can outers work for someone very often back to back?


Typo error. Not my "whole bankroll". I meant, my whole chipstack. Sorry for typo error. I'm not good with bankroll management but I'm not stupid enough to put up my whole entire bankroll on one buy-in, which is something that happened in Rounders. I've learned that from Rounders too. No matter how good you are, you can always get beat by anyone, regardless of their poker level. The hell, I've lost several times to my friend's friend's wife in friendly sng home game, who doesn't even know poker rankings because she calls with two overcards and hits her overcards or hits gutshot straights or hitting running trips.
 
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All you can do is get your money in with the best hand.
But, take in mind their will always be bad beats in poker and you will always give them out, its the poker cycle of life. Cool down, take a break, you'll get over it. I remember receiving the worst possible bad beat, I actually am pretty sure statistically that its impossible for a beat to be worse. I took a very long break after that, you'll find your way back and forget everything. Well not forget... but not be as angry.
 
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Your play was good and nothing you can do can help you from avoiding bad beats. People always get lucky, but in the long run, you'll make your money. Emotional stability is vital to earning money in the poker world. Do anything, except play while tilted and you'll be fine.
 
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You have a very high-risk style. If you insist on keeping it, you very likely will go broke. If you can't accept that or it makes you crazy, only play with money that won't bother you to lose in the short run.

Bad beats will happen; they are what keep worse players playing. If their bad play wasn't occasionally rewarded, they would quit.

You should be able to laugh off these types of hands. If you can't, you are playing with too much money.

I am sure you didn't really want to kill your dealers over less than $1,000, right? That wouldn't be worth it in the long run.
 
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You were good, they were lucky. I would kill to have those sets in those positions every day- the long term profits would be large.
 
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You played it right but good skills get killed by luck sometimes, a hint: if you get a bad mood about bad beats make a break cause your game is affected by these moods not good going on with playing before you are mentaly balanced again, it happens to everyone of us bad beats over and over hard to stay cool at this time i know how you felt...
 
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I think most importantly patience and good nerves and go on to the only good maps for the small role is not important whether you are a professional or amateur, that does not exist as a poker game where you have to think.
It is my opinion and experience
 
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if you dont got the absolute nuts in a hand than be prepared to be beat even with the best hand atm sometimes. thats just how it works you played extremely well if that helps. i gotten use to taking badbeats and i believe it made me a better player, in tournaments, cuz a chip and a chair all you need to come back :).
 
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"I hit my set while my opponent hit his TPTK(Top Pair, Top Kicker). I checked from small blind."


I think you might be playing too loose and then giving them the image of a bluff. If you have a set you need to bet at least 2/3 of the pot and get those kinds of draws off the hand before they put money in. They are more likely to fold 3 to a flush if they have nothing invested in that flop.
 
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When i'm tilting, i write a quick note.

Rational ape -_-

KK is my guilty hand in cash game if i'm getting run over, or losing. I can fold it when i'm winning. I'd lost 2 BI and a LAG was stealing alot from the blinds, so i started 3betting him light. Semi decent hands with post flop value 98s, Ax etc well anyways he was getting the better of me. HE wsa flat calling, i was whiffing the flops.

Then i wake up with KK, hand befoer i'd folded to his 4bet. So i 3bet him with KK and the nit BB 4bets 'OH FFS'. But talked myself into shoving knowing he had AA - thinking that MAYBE HE WAS ADJUSTING TO MY 3BETTING. How you can talk urself into BS at times. I don't want to fold, he might have QQ. LOL adjusting to my 3bets - this was a guy who only played his hand strength..

Absolutely fish, fish, fishy and i'm so disappointed with that hand.

Looking at HEM KK is very unprofitable for me in all in pots pre flop. I've won 4 and lost 6 where i've ran into AA. So much for Harrington saying never fold KK preflop...you do at mirco limits where the competent players only stack KK and AA.
 
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Looking at HEM KK is very unprofitable for me in all in pots pre flop. I've won 4 and lost 6 where i've ran into AA. So much for Harrington saying never fold KK preflop...you do at mirco limits where the competent players only stack KK and AA.

Hmm, I think this is overstating things. Just looked at my database - I've raised all-in 15 times with KK this year (10NL and 25NL), and on four of those hands I was up against AA. The rest of the time I was a solid favorite. And this isn't even considering the times I've stacked worse hands than KK's preflop, which I do regularly.

I agree with Harrington - I just don't see how you can ever fold KK's preflop. I don't think competent micro players (and I don't think there are all that many of these - not even saying I'm one) only stack KK and AA - actually, I can't believe the hands I see micro players stacking with.

It's aggravating, and memorable, when you get KK's all in against AA's, but it's -Ev to fold these preflop.
 
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"I hit my set while my opponent hit his TPTK(Top Pair, Top Kicker). I checked from small blind."


I think you might be playing too loose and then giving them the image of a bluff. If you have a set you need to bet at least 2/3 of the pot and get those kinds of draws off the hand before they put money in. They are more likely to fold 3 to a flush if they have nothing invested in that flop.

Reason why I checked from small blind was because there were 3 people left to act and I'm utg during the flop. When I saw that King on the flop, I'm definitely sure one of three players has a King since it was a raised pot. This is why I checked, pretending I DON"T have a set. Purpose of this is to squeeze play all the raise and all the blinds, which I did and perfectly trapped one of the callers who folded when I reraised all in. I dunno what he had because he folded after I reraised but that's the purpose.
 
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I have another question. How long does it take to forget and move onto bad beat. It's been like 2 weeks or so now. But still, I can't get rid of this bad beat. It's the worst beat I've ever had in my life. My friend told me to go to casino with him but I refused because I'm still angry at bad beats back to back and going to that casino where I received bad beat makes me want to burn the casino down. Sorry for freaking everyone out again but I can't tolerate this. I don't remember giving bad beats horribly like the way other people gave it to me. I don't recall myself beating someone's set with TPTK. I don't recall hitting my set on the river to beat someone when odds were heavily in my opponent's favor during post-flop.
 
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