Originally Posted by cracksniper
The flop comes 8,J,5 rainbow great flop for me I think.
Reread the section in Harrington where he "reckons that the pot odds
normally gives an obligatory call in the SB". Pay particular attention to what he says you are hoping for on the flop.
This is NOT a good flop for you. You're looking for 789, AKQ, two pair, trips or a boat. Anything less, you've got to be done with the hand and fold to any bet.
The ten is NOT a good kicker. AJ, KJ, QJ, are all likely limping hands and have you crushed.
If you improve with a ten on the turn, the gutshot straights also got there.