Playing JJ

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Does anyone have good advice to help me get over my concern of playing JJ aggressively in early or mid position on 10 seated table
what is a suitable BB raise
can limping in be an acceptable play
or does it depend on the aggressiveness of the table
 
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I am not a fan of limping PERIOD. If I were you, I would play JJ exactly the same preflop as you play any other hand in the situation you are in relative to position, stack size, tournament structure and all of the other factors you consider. And I would continue post flop in the same way I would continue with any other hand that hit, missed, considering board on flop, opponent(s) and all the other factors you normally consider. My point is don't get too stuck on your hand JJ.
 
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A famous poker quote: "There are 3 ways to play pocket jacks. They are all wrong"
But seriously, play them like you would play 9's or 10's. Limping is a strategy used to control pot size or trap loose aggressive players. Raising is used to isolate or to get marginal hands like K 9 or Q 8 to fold. Some people either are too afraid or too aggressive with JJ. As with any hand you play, always have a plan as to what you will do, especially post-flop. I also know that you have to be prepared to fold JJ if you are aggressive and get played back. You have to know what ranges your opponents are willing to play, so you have a chance to leverage JJ if you do hit big. Folding at the right time is a big part of profitable play, but so is picking off the obvious bluff. For example, let's say the flop comes 5 6 Q. If you know your opponent will play A 6, he probably stays in the hand. So it comes 2 2 on the river and turn, you may be able to get some value from him.
 
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i normaly raise 3x the bb pre flop with jacks-no a set in stone rule just something i personaly do myself -i think the hardest part of playing j-j is post flop-for me the flop and players decide my next move-if all low cards hit flop ide bet at least pot-if over cards come i still bet out-but im more than willing to fold to a re-raise or a re-raise shove-sometimes no matter how you play j-j your on the losing end most times your not -limping in with j-j is something i dont do-il only limp small pairs[set mining]
 
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i would limp in early position.if you raise 3 big blinds and someone re-raises you for 8 big blinds then there is a chance a guy holding aces pushes all in.in that situation you have to fold and you miss the chance of hitting a jack and get him stacked.in mid position you can put up a raise of 3 big blinds.if they raise you for like 10 you know that they hold a really strong hand so you'll need to hit on the flop to get the pot.You still call but need to be very very carefull. if there is an ace or king or queen on board there is still a chance you are beaten even if you hit your jack. That's why you raise in the first place,to get information.If they re-raise you big pre-flop then you got all the info you need.call with your jacks catch a jack and crack his aces.If you are on late position you can raise a little more but the situation is more or less the same if they re-raise you preflop unless he\she is defending their blinds so a re-raise doesn't tell you as much as on other occasions.
 
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The Jacks should be played like any good hand
raise 3x and play according to your reads on callers
if got reraised it certainly could be a better than ours and we can find fold easily
limping Big pairs is absolutely bad idea because even AA gets beat most of the time giving odds to garbage hands
so a good hand must be raised to isolate the field and play
 
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thanks for the replies they have given me something to work with
my problem has been as Dan Lucas said "Some people either are too afraid or too aggressive with JJ." got me too a tee
checking the responses on this hand seemingly is an enigma to other players as well
 
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3BB is a nice raze, but it's very tricky hand, specially in mid position. Depends very much on the game, stack and opponents and the play before you.
 
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I don't like the hand JJ and I'd play really careful with it. Don't raise too much and pay attention to the flop. Also never go all in with JJ on the blind because it is a huge mistake. Good luck :)
 
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A raise would isolate marginal hand such as Ax or even smaller pair.
 
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I agree in general a 3 or 4 bb raise is acceptable to try to put off limpers again depending on position and players in the game I will have to see how it works over the next few months
 
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I don't know what the big question is about JJ. It is like the 5th best starting hand, raise. Go in knowing most likely your in a coin flip. I suspect many people struggle with hands like JJ because its a larger pair and feel that it is harder to fold, but to me its the same as 88, 99, 1010. Play them the same and if your profitable with medium pairs your JJ will do fine.
 
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I dont like limping with strong hands like JJ beacuse you give BU-BB with weak Ax(or any wierd hand for that matter) a chanse to see the flop for free or cheap.
Yes, some times you will be beat on the flop and JJ is just a pair BUT! it's one of the strongest hands you can play.
 
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