Player Note Sharing

Is it wrong to share player notes?

What about lists of players that just aren't any good at certain games/stakes?

I'm just wondering, don't skin me alive...

It's like sharing hand history. It's just not good sportmenship. I'm not sure if it's againt the rules? I think it is

It is probably wrong however I wouldn't really want someone else's notes.
If you have different styles of play those notes probably would be the same on a particular player anyway. As well as the fact I find within 5 min at a table you can usually get an idea of type of a player someone is.

I've never thought about that. It would be an extremely tedious process to share your notes unless there was a specific download or something where they are all kept. Hmm Idk the programs enough to know if that is do able so beyond being unstable and probablly tedious it seems much less worth the hassle.

Stix

Its frowned upon...just like masturbating on an airplane.

LombardiStix said:

I've never thought about that. It would be an extremely tedious process to share your notes unless there was a specific download or something where they are all kept. Hmm Idk the programs enough to know if that is do able so beyond being unstable and probablly tedious it seems much less worth the hassle.

Stix

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Easy enough to do if you just download notes off puter, then put them on another one. Pretty sure it's against the rules obv.
welcome back to CC there Lombardistix

tomh7795 said:

It's like sharing hand history. It's just not good sportmenship. I'm not sure if it's againt the rules? I think it is

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I imagine that if you had a database of notes on players and gave all of them to another it could be considered against a site's TOS.

Not good sportsmanship? Not sure I'd go that far.

But, as far as talking to others about players about others and sharing what you know about particular players and their style, I don't see why this is a problem.

It is 100% aginst the rules

It is called data mining

It is against the rules. I dont remember who it was off the top of my head but full tilt recently suspended one of their pros account for doing this.

You can't do it on a plane!
Darn!

FTP_TheNuts said:

It is 100% aginst the rules

It is called data mining

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Data mining is sharing hand histories. Discussng hands or sharing what you know about a player is not. Like if I told you that IllyPhilly can't get away from top pair--this is not data mining.

Drunkard912 said:

It is against the rules. I dont remember who it was off the top of my head but full tilt recently suspended one of their pros account for doing this.

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He admitted to sharing hand histories of a lot of hands of a player. Not just discussing the player and sharing notes. The actual data that could be studied and a playing strategy developed from these hands. If a player uses the hand histories of hands that he actually played, that's not a issue.

Don't sharkscope do this yet?
I think it's almost the same thing
I don't like this ideia

Pretty sure it violates the rules. The sites have rules against just looking at a site like "poker table ratings" while you are actually playing since you are getting information on a player on hands you were not personally involved in. If that is against the rules, then i'm pretty sure that uploading your entire 'notes' to someone else wouldn't be kosher either.

tbdbitl said:

Data mining is sharing hand histories. Discussng hands or sharing what you know about a player is not. Like if I told you that IllyPhilly can't get away from top pair--this is not data mining.



He admitted to sharing hand histories of a lot of hands of a player. Not just discussing the player and sharing notes. The actual data that could be studied and a playing strategy developed from these hands. If a player uses the hand histories of hands that he actually played, that's not a issue.

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Data mining is sharing something you have laernt personally by observing or playing with someone who was not observing or playing.

Therefor you are sharing information you have picked up with people who havt picked up the information

Player notes are reads you pick up at the tables, say you make a note someone is LAG, and you tell a friend to do the same on the same person, then you have told them something they didnt earn for themselves.

If it isnt data mining its a pretty thin line

FTP_TheNuts said:

Data mining is sharing something you have laernt personally by observing or playing with someone who was not observing or playing.

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You and anyone else is flat wrong if you think sharing intellectual knowledge is data mining.

Here is the best concise definition that I've seen:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_mining

I'm a member of stoxpoker and cardrunners. And most of the training videos discuss how differents player play. In a lot of these videos you actually get to see the instructors take notes on various villains. As far as I know this is allowed. So I'd say this is defiantly grey area.

Why in the world would you want to provide this information to other players?

Wes747 said:

Its frowned upon...just like masturbating on an airplane.

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You are comparing exchanging intellectual information to masterbating on an airplane?

Ohhhhhh nm I understand.

My questioin is why would you want to do that. Someone can pretty much figure out if there is a bad player at their table.

rcbstuff said:

My questioin is why would you want to do that. Someone can pretty much figure out if there is a bad player at their table.

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That's obvious but your note taking should be more detailed than, "this player is lolbad". If you figure out that this guy spews in 3 bet pots or over plays sets on wet boards or any number of things. This is detailed information which you can use to exploit a reg or semi-fish.

Notes on ok to good players are just as useful (more than imo) as notes on bad players.

slycbnew said:

Notes on ok to good players are just as useful (more than imo) as notes on bad players.

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+1 to more useful on good players.

It can only take a few hands to work out a player is awful

You have to keep in mind though that when you are reading someone elses notes. They can mean something totally different from what you are thinking. So let the note sharing continue.

Wes747 said:

Its frowned upon...just like masturbating on an airplane.

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HA! That made me spit beer all over my keyboard.

I don't think its a problem if your just talking to someone and comparing players but I can't really see the point of sharing 'notes' - how often are you gonna play with these people? ok you can search for them but what are you gonna learn from someone else's notes that you won't learn within an hour anyway? The notes may be totally wrong or not informative.

I suppose if your playing high stakes it might be worth something but in micros, where most people are, i'd say its pointless.

(+1 to sly- have more detailed notes on good players than bad ones.)