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$0.03/$0.05 Pot Limit Holdem
Stack sizes are relativley the same around $5
UTG calls $0.05
UTG +1 folds
Middle Player calls $0.05
CO folds
SB folds
BB (Hero) Calls $0.05 with :6d4: :7s4:
Flop :3c4: :4s4: :5h4:
Hero Pots $0.15
UTG calls $0.15
Middle Player folds
POT $0.45
Turn :3c4::4s4::5h4: :5d4:
Hero Pots $0.45
UTG calls $0.45
POT $1.35
River :3c4::4s4::5h4: :5d4: :10s4:
What to do? seems like a pretty safe board
Hero pots $1.35
UTG calls $1.35
UTG :5c4: :10d4: and didn't re-raise
Did I do anything wrong? The worst part is this happened to me 2 times in less than 500 hands with the 10 making the full house on the river when i had the nut straight on the flop.
 
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It's poker dude, worry not, 500 is nothing.
 
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ya crap sure does happen in poker,
bet bigger with the nutz i guess, take what ya can while you can:)
(ive sloplayed too many that get me rivered)
its tough to get some ppl to fold no matter the bet, just know in the long run, they should bring you profit
 
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Yep

This is why I don't play Pot Limit Hold'em anymore.
 
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Lol what does it being pot limit have to do with it
 
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Pot Limit

Couldn't move him off 5's on flop with $0.30 bet, NL could have raised higher and shoved him out. Although nut 5 card flop you'd think I'd want him to call, still say he has 78s or a Pocket over pair, he's drawing to a better hand so I want to make it as expensive as possible. My stack was about 20% bigger than his so an 80% bet of his stack will make him hesitate with 5's on flop. In reality I would want him to call, since his hand was variance anyways and most of the time I would win,
 
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why would you want to move him off his hand? lulz
 
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We want callers on the flop, not folders.
 
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Couldn't move him off 5's on flop with $0.30 bet, NL could have raised higher and shoved him out. Although nut 5 card flop you'd think I'd want him to call, still say he has 78s or a Pocket over pair, he's drawing to a better hand so I want to make it as expensive as possible. My stack was about 20% bigger than his so an 80% bet of his stack will make him hesitate with 5's on flop. In reality I would want him to call, since his hand was variance anyways and most of the time I would win,
Pot limit is not NL. So your approach towards the game should be different. You are like a lot of players that i saw here saying that " I should move up in limits because ppl do not respect my raise at lower limits". Simply put your whole strategy towards pot limit have to consider bad beats like this on the long run. Look at his odds to complete a full house.Unde 4% untill the river. Imagine how big will be your profit on the long run if you keep finding players like this. Do not let some bad beats upset you but be happy that you played that hand the right way and think of the profit you will make on the long run. Do not tilt. Do not make the mistake of playing hands like fish did. On the long run things get even and fish gets what he deserves, going broke, and you will make profit .

PS. One post and i will make 500:) Should i spam? :D
 
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Needed more explanation

After I posted my last I realized that I didn't explain very well so i edited it but the 30 min had already passed, that said:
I have the nuts on the flop and you may think I would want a call/raise but I only had like 5 hands against this guy and he was a complete unknown. The over bet is good for me because I normally want him to call. The problem is that 34, 45, 35, 33, 44, 55 are all drawing to FH and 68, 78, is drawing to a higher gutshot. in addition pocket over pairs 8', 9's, 10's, etc. and hands like A3, A4, A5 are drawing to FH so I want to make him pay dearly to buy cards. These hands are unlikely to make so I do want him to call the raise after the flop.
Turn comes now I've got top pair on board. his call suggests he made trips (pocket 5's for the 4 of a kind or the 35, 45 FH is unlikely since he didn't reraise) the other possibilities are he has the pocket over pair (below K's) and is hoping for the FH on River. I'm putting him on A5 or K5 in this spot so when river turns 10 I feel safe. It's not having any read on this guy's play, notice how nitish he played the FH (did he really consider I had the pocket 10's for the nut FH?). Also look at his starting hand 10,5 is this a hand worth calling UTG Pre-flop? So this guy's a real fish that I want to play heads up 19 out of 20 times and variance got me this time.
I still want to move an unknown off post flop simply because there are so many hands that I can get beat with, while I cannot get any better. It's a bird in the hand thing, when I can't get a read
 
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After I posted my last I realized that I didn't explain very well so i edited it but the 30 min had already passed, that said:
I have the nuts on the flop and you may think I would want a call/raise but I only had like 5 hands against this guy and he was a complete unknown. The over bet is good for me because I normally want him to call. The problem is that 34, 45, 35, 33, 44, 55 are all drawing to FH and 68, 78, is drawing to a higher gutshot. in addition pocket over pairs 8', 9's, 10's, etc. and hands like A3, A4, A5 are drawing to FH so I want to make him pay dearly to buy cards. These hands are unlikely to make so I do want him to call the raise after the flop.
Turn comes now I've got top pair on board. his call suggests he made trips (pocket 5's for the 4 of a kind or the 35, 45 FH is unlikely since he didn't reraise) the other possibilities are he has the pocket over pair (below K's) and is hoping for the FH on River. I'm putting him on A5 or K5 in this spot so when river turns 10 I feel safe. It's not having any read on this guy's play, notice how nitish he played the FH (did he really consider I had the pocket 10's for the nut FH?). Also look at his starting hand 10,5 is this a hand worth calling UTG Pre-flop? So this guy's a real fish that I want to play heads up 19 out of 20 times and variance got me this time.
I still want to move an unknown off post flop simply because there are so many hands that I can get beat with, while I cannot get any better. It's a bird in the hand thing, when I can't get a read
You could had checked the turn check the river to keep it small. But. If he had something better than one pair on the flop i think he would had reraised you because even the fish are valueing their hands on a board with obvious draws.
 
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