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deerhunter29

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can somebody help me with this. everytime I get a AK or A and a face card I go all in. there is a 8 outta 10 times thing that I get beat. am I over betting or not
 
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i agree i think just double or 3 bet , my game as improved so much just not being all in with bigs hands
 
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It is not very clever to go all in everytime when you get a decent hand. Especially with the hands you mentioned it's pretty much 50/50 chances at best as your opponents will most likely call only with big pocket pairs or AK.
 
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dont go ALL IN pre flop,

i would go ALL IN only when in late position and there are like 1, top 2 players with me to win the pot .

just raise about 3-4 BB
 
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Before the flop is a bad idea to go all in. You must hide the strength of your hand. If you hit the flop is aggressive, if not the best idea is to fold.
 
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If you have many bb's then yes your over betting. Make a standard raise, and a cbet if the conditions are good to try to take it. How many times have you gone in, got called, you both missed yet they hit on the turn or the river? Many many times. Unless it was someone who was not going to fold, you would have been able to take the pot on the flop, and won a small pot instead of losing your stack. If they hit the flop and call your cbet, your still in the game with most of your stack left.
 
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You are definitly overplaying your hands - AK is good enough, but to go allin with Aj or Aq can be tricky, especially if you play cash games.
Also, try to understand your opponents game and then choose hands to go allin vs. them :)
 
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Love that players - all-in with A-face. What shall we all do in poker when they run out? (no offence meant)
 
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Yeah, definitely not the best idea to be shoving there unless you have a lot of soft action ahead of you already or you have like 15BB or fewer.

4x is where I'd be.
 
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What?

There is no need to go all in preflop with small kickers Ax.
 
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...everytime I get a AK or A and a face card I go all in. there is a 8 outta 10 times thing that I get beat. am I over betting or not

On a 6 man table with no less than 4 players betting into the pre-flop your AK/Face hand has a 27-30% chance of holding up pre-flop to the river. If you like them odds please by all means go ahead and shove and let the "random" number generator hand your teeth to you on a silver platter 7-8/10 times.

Stick to doubling or 3x raising the preflop and if the cards flop right then shove.
 
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This is one of those teachable moments. Do you think it's good to get it in with AK ?

If this is tournament and you have 1-11 big blinds left, yeah it's fine in my opinion.
If this is cash, and your opponent has more than 50 big blind stack, this is gambling . At best you're 50% against him.

Honestly wish there was a required fill out of stake/cash or tournament in all forums like hand analysis.
 
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all hand gets his chance

it is necessary to see the flop if you are with a strong hand in this premium advantage note the opponent has increased to maximize gain if he bet a lot fold , all-in pre-flop may be out of the game by a :2s4::2h4::2d4::2c4: or :2s4::2h4::2d4:
, all hand gets his chance
 
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If someone as a pocket pair then they are already ahead of you even with AK. If you go in with an A and any kicker then there are even more hands that can beat you. Maybe play a little tighter it could be beneficial.
 
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For me, all in with these hands just when i'm short stack, less than 12BB.
I usually do a raise or a 3 bet, to cut out players with especulative hands, and wait for the flop.
 
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To many times, your opponent could get a set on flop or turn or river which count for my As being cracked. Bet to little no value, bet to much no value. Know your table, be patient and pick your spot.--r
 
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It depends on the situation, yes, they are strong hands but what are you playing? MTTs, sit n gos, ring games? And what level are you playing? What is your table image, how are your opponents playing? If you are in a freeroll in ACR and you push with any hand, you are likely to get 2-5 callers...that's just how they play and also why it is extremely hard for a good, smart player to win freerolls. The rule is to never fall in love with your hand, if you are raising 3-4 times the BB and getting callers, that's what you want because you should be winning most hands but depending on what game and what level you are playing, you have to be disciplined enough to know that your opponents can be playing a huge range of hands and if you haven't improved then you are probably beat and can out of the hand without major damage to your stack.
Perfect example: Last night I was playing a freeroll on ACR with 14 remaining. I was at a table with a maniac who was going all in every single hand (whether raising or calling all in) and amazing enough, he was winning, EVERY single hand. I got AK in middle position and I went all in hoping to double up through the maniac, I finished 14th because of course he called with Q7 offsuit and of course he managed to get two pair. But that's how that level works, with my image, in a cash game or a buy-in tournament, everyone would have folded without hesitation because you really don't run across maniacs like this guy. On the other hand, if I had been in a cash game or buy-in tourney I would probably have made a 3 1/2x the BB raise with the same result. Think about how you need to play in the situation that your in and I think you'll see that sometimes the push is appropriate and sometimes you want to slow down and get value for your premium hands.
 
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