This is a discussion on Outs and Pot Odds within the online poker forums, in the Learning Poker section; I have a book called, "Poker Math" by James Chesterson. In the book he gives a chart outs odds and percentages. In the chart he
I have a book called, "Poker Math" by James Chesterson. In the book he gives a chart outs odds and percentages. In the chart he lists the following:
5 outs 8.40-1 on the flop, 8.20-1 on the turn and 3.93-1 for the flop and turn
6 outs 6.83-1 on the flop, 6.67-1 on the turn and 3.15-1 for the flop and turn
7 outs 5.71-1 on the flop, 5.57-1 on the turn and 2.60- for the flop and turn
The chart lists outs like this from 1 out up to 20 outs. My question is this. Are these the outs for or against winning the hand? For example, if I have 7 outs on the flop does that mean I need a 6-1 pot for a good call on the flop?
I just stumbled across this today as I was exploring the site again after my lengthy absence. I feel as though this is directly related to what you are asking.
If you are just interested in "outs" these are the cards that will win you the pot if you are behind, the more outs you have the more likely you are to win the pot.
13th January 2018, 8:59 PM
Poker at: Ignition
Originally Posted by Zer0-0uts
For example, if I have 7 outs on the flop does that mean I need a 6-1 pot for a good call on the flop?
Short answer: Yes
Think of odds expressed this way as [number of times bad outcome will occur in a large sample]:[number of times good outcome will occur in a large sample].
So if your odds are 2:1, you will get the card you need one time in every three trials.
If your odds are 5.71:1, you will get the card you need one time in every 6.71 trials.
As you may know, the odds are important, but it's just one factor in deciding whether the call is good. Implied odds, the possibility of reverse implied odds, the likelihood of successfully bluffing on later streets, and the likelihood of being bluffed are among the other considerations.