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Running Nose II
Visionary
Silver Level
I recently spent some time searching sites for a definitive answer to what is the highest number of outs possible in Hold'em. The answers I found were eye opening, ranging from 22 to an unbelievable 28. There was some imaginative counting, a lot of double counting, and a few not including the suited 2 in their calculations. One managed to get six community cards available.
The definition of outs 'are the unseen cards that will improve or complete your hand to make it the WINNING hand'.
We are talking winning hands in this calculation, not chopped.
Anyway I may not be the sharpest tool in the box, but here's my input.
Give Rank Badyin say 2 of clubs 2 of spades.
My hole cards are K of hearts, J of hearts (hey I'm the good guy)
Flop goes down Q of hearts, 10 of hearts, 7 of clubs (as it would).
Calculation:-
9 flush draws (He makes a set with 2H, loses to my flush, same
with 7H with two pairs)
3 low straight draws.
3 high straight draws.
3 Kings in the other suits.
3 Jacks in the other suits.
Total = 21.
Queens or Tens turning up are as much use as an ash-tray on a motorbike, and no help to my hand
Now if anybody can increase beyond 21, or show my flawed thinking, I'll be happy to finally know the number.
The definition of outs 'are the unseen cards that will improve or complete your hand to make it the WINNING hand'.
We are talking winning hands in this calculation, not chopped.
Anyway I may not be the sharpest tool in the box, but here's my input.
Give Rank Badyin say 2 of clubs 2 of spades.
My hole cards are K of hearts, J of hearts (hey I'm the good guy)
Flop goes down Q of hearts, 10 of hearts, 7 of clubs (as it would).
Calculation:-
9 flush draws (He makes a set with 2H, loses to my flush, same
with 7H with two pairs)
3 low straight draws.
3 high straight draws.
3 Kings in the other suits.
3 Jacks in the other suits.
Total = 21.
Queens or Tens turning up are as much use as an ash-tray on a motorbike, and no help to my hand
Now if anybody can increase beyond 21, or show my flawed thinking, I'll be happy to finally know the number.