Omaha Flush Draws (almost) always complete

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Ok, I'll have to go through my hand histories for some factual numbers, but ...

It seems that on any site I play Omaha on, including Stars, FT, Carbon, Pokertime, whenever a flop appears with a 2flush, it seems that it almost always completes to a 3 or more flush.

This seems to happen much less often in Holdem.

Is there a mathematical / probability reason that a flush board should complete more often than in Holdem?

Or is it just my imagination ?
 
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Just your imagination / selective recall.

You've seen two more cards in the hand compared to NLHE so you've got a slightly different percentage of hitting your outs in Omaha but that doesn't explain any massive increase in the number of flushes that hit.
 
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Well if you're playing well, you will chuck hands pre that don't have any flush possibilities, so you're odds improve that you are holding a hand that could complete.

If your double suited you have better chance of hitting, and if you are 4 flushed pre that would lower your odds.
 
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Well if you're playing well, you will chuck hands pre that don't have any flush possibilities, so you're odds improve that you are holding a hand that could complete.

If your double suited you have better chance of hitting, and if you are 4 flushed pre that would lower your odds.


True, but OPs suggestion was that the third card falls more often on the board. Hole cards are not relevant to that.
 
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True, but OPs suggestion was that the third card falls more often on the board. Hole cards are not relevant to that.

Yes that is what I meant, the third flush card, and sometimes even a fourth falling on the board, not whether I hit the flush, regardless of what hole cards hands I had.

True, I may be more aware of it, becase in Omaha Hi freerolls, I basically only play for flushes, boats, or trips, quads, i.e. I have AaXa or a pp. (Maybe that's why I've never cashed in one yet lol. Did get up to about ~70th in a FT one once).
 
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True, I may be more aware of it, becase in Omaha Hi freerolls, I basically only play for flushes, boats, or trips, quads, i.e. I have AaXa or a pp. (Maybe that's why I've never cashed in one yet lol. Did get up to about ~70th in a FT one once).

First, I'd like to make a distinction between trips and sets. If you have trips, meaning the pair is on the board, you can be sure someone will end up w/the boat, if not already flopped it. I'll fold AAKQ in a heartbeat if the flop brings a JJ8.

Second, your game will be very incomplete without some mastery of the component of straights. Gappers, wraps, and # of nut and non-nut outs - and starting hands that likeliest to produce more nut outs.
 
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