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This was the first hand of my session yesterday. It is days like this I question my sanity (and this seems to happening a lot of time, I’m on the bad side of variance atm).

5PL (in for the 5.00) in the BB with AsAc.

UTG+3 (2.58) raises (.17)
SB (13.45) re-raises to (.35)
I re-raise to 1.25
UTG+3 calls the 1.25
SB folds.

Flop Js 3s 5h

First to act, I put UTG+3 all in for his remaining 1.33, get a snap call.

UTG+3 has JJ.

Ship it over with all the blanks on the turn/river.

Now maybe I had a bad read (Put him on KK/QQ to call 1/2 of his chip stack off). Personally I would have laid down JJ/TT and maybe even QQ when I see a third re-raise. I know not everyone plays that way, I get that.

What I'm thinking is that I made a mistake after the flop. During the hand I figured with the flat call gave him a high pocket pair. AA would have raised me again, but this might make sense for KK/QQ, borderline JJ/TT (Personally I would have folded JJ/TT). What I believe I should have done with the flop was check it and let him commit the chips, but I struggled with allowing the opponent get a free card. So betting the 1.33 he had left was about 1/2 the current pot but also putting him all in. I simply think he was commited to the hand regardless of the flop and I had case of bad luck.

So in the event of trying to better myself I was wondering what any of your thoughts might be, I appreciate thoughts/comments.
 
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Your opponent got lucky. That's all. I think you played it fine.
 
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yea there is really no other way you could have played it. even if you check then he shoves your not gonna fold your aces. it was inevitable that you would go all in. you just ended up on the short side of the stick that happens
 
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the hand played itself (jj call is dodgy)
but its low limits so people wont fold
i cant think of any other way you could play it
just unlucky
 
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if hes not folding to the rereraise of his bet from under gun, then you couldnt get him off JJ preflop, especially with his chip stack, im postive he'd join u all in pre flop, and sure he'd join you after the flop even if an over hit, sounds like a cold deck situation to me, at least he didnt have more chips.
 
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u cannot consider anything but putting him allin here. you have put in 1.25 already and he only had 1.33 left. presuming there is about $3 or so in the pot at this pointb and a very dry flop where realistically only a set beats you (he'd have to be really bad to have flopped 2 pair here) then folding because he might have a set is ridiculous. He played it horribly as with JJ in his spot he should fold or shove. just callin for half ur stack in a CG is just plain awful.
 
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you did nothing wrong. your opponent got lucky. dont learn from your opponent. u did the right thing
 
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This is really a Hand Analysis discussion - you might want to re-post it there after reading the guidelines for it.
 
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Oh my, Sorry I did post this in the wrong spot. ARGH. LOL. Will do :)
 
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As was already said this looks like you played it fine on your part, he really wasn't going to fold regardless of the outcome.
 
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You can't control the result of any given hand, only whether each action you take is favorable (right or wrong is too binary) based on the situation as you know / evaluate it at that moment. You're going to lose the max on this hand. Trying to figure out how you might have lost less is a counter-productive exercise since the only way(s) to have done so would have required playing the hand worse than you did.
 
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Don't know if this will make you feel better, but just doing the math for sets, it works out as follows:

21% of the time, he'll hit his card, but 16% of the times he hits, you also hit, so he wins about 17.4% of the time, you win 82.6%.

Even if he always folds on the flop when he is destined to lose, your expected value is 82.6% * $1.25 = $1.03 per hand.

His expected value is 17.4% * $2.58 = $0.45 per hand.

Conclusion: You should make this play every chance you get.
 
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imma have to agree with t1riel you played that perfectly just some people have ridiculous luck. and it can be very aggravating sometimes....
 
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imma have to agree with t1riel you played that perfectly just some people have ridiculous luck. and it can be very aggravating sometimes....

It isnt ridiculous luck, its lucky yes but its variance. As the poster further up says he will win 83% of the time. I bet he wont post the 83% of the times he has won. Its variance. yes luck but thats variance. you wnat people to call with jacks and it wouldnt be poker nor would it be fun if you never got bad beaten. No doubt he shoudlnt called preflop with jacks and this sint the same but sure youve called a big preflop raise with kings and hit set and be all in after flop and win against aces. Its variance and thats poker. At end of the day you keep playing the correct way then variance will be in your favour But everyone will be the victim of variance when holding a better pair and some guy flopping sets. It happens its how you recover and bounce back that counts.
 
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