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I like the cc odd calc, but it starts with flop.
pre-flop, easy to find: AA is best hand
- > 50% chance to win heads up
- but < 50% chance to win with 9 opponents

Suggestion to add:
- odds pre-flop
- based on the table size
- even without opponent cards
 
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I don't understand. AA is like 80% to win pre flop against most hands, not 50%. The CC odds calculator will give pre flop odds, not just after the flop.
 
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I think Carbon Poker used to have a good odds calculator.
 
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I think the best odds calculator i have found would be the pokerstars school of poker odds calculator, it also has an interesting hand ranging tool on its flipside.
it really is quite an intricate and handy little ciber device and surely worth a goosey by all. check it out..

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I don't understand. AA is like 80% to win pre flop against most hands, not 50%. The CC odds calculator will give pre flop odds, not just after the flop.

the cc calculator by design 'would' probably be the easiest layout for inputting comm cards and user whole cards in play on the fly but i cant see how it could be useful by function in play, maybe i'm missing something but other than for post play scrutiny it doesn't seem to offer any beneficial use in game as without inputting your opponents then unknown hand/s it is unable to calculate anything at all also rendering it useless for pre/post flop and turn calculations in an in play situation, yet the instructions provided in its thread here in the forum suggests beneficial use of the tool 'in real time'.

If I am missing something please correct me but its use in real time just isn't within its capabilities unless your are indeed extra sensory gifted and so for anybody to successfully use the calculator in real time would require an ability to input an opponents holdings without that information being provided, clearly rendering the tool obsolete to anyone possessing such an ability.

it's funny, the 'in real time' aspect speaks for 50% of the calculators possible application (with post analysis accounting for the other 50%) even with such a comprehensive and otherwise adequate description I couldn't resist checking the threads post date for being dated APRIL 1st.

so.... lolololololololololololololololol until corrected.
 
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I don't understand. AA is like 80% to win pre flop against most hands, not 50%. The CC odds calculator will give pre flop odds, not just after the flop.
Thanks!
Sorry for my too short statement.
> 50% means : more than 50%
For the missing odds pre-flop, I mean the odds without entering opponent cards; the 'average odds'.
I think the best odds calculator i have found would be the pokerstars school of poker odds calculator, it also has an interesting hand ranging tool on its flipside.
it really is quite an intricate and handy little ciber device and surely worth a goosey by all. check it out..
........no affiliate links to see here........
Thanks, I'll check if I have access...
ps have blocked at least part of the school for me as I run the client in a virtual machine (more safe and reliable for me).
 
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the cc calculator by design 'would' probably be the easiest layout for inputting comm cards and user whole cards in play on the fly but i cant see how it could be useful by function in play, maybe i'm missing something but other than for post play scrutiny it doesn't seem to offer any beneficial use in game as without inputting your opponents then unknown hand/s it is unable to calculate anything at all also rendering it useless for pre/post flop and turn calculations in an in play situation, yet the instructions provided in its thread here in the forum suggests beneficial use of the tool 'in real time'.

If I am missing something please correct me but its use in real time just isn't within its capabilities unless your are indeed extra sensory gifted and so for anybody to successfully use the calculator in real time would require an ability to input an opponents holdings without that information being provided, clearly rendering the tool obsolete to anyone possessing such an ability.

it's funny, the 'in real time' aspect speaks for 50% of the calculators possible application (with post analysis accounting for the other 50%) even with such a comprehensive and otherwise adequate description I couldn't resist checking the threads post date for being dated APRIL 1st.

so.... lolololololololololololololololol until corrected.
Where is it that you see "in real time" and what thread are you talking about? Obviously any calculator isn't going to be able to calculate accurate odds without knowing opponents hole cards, which would be after the hand. Calculators are generally used in study, with the "did I make the right call?" question in mind. But would really like to know which thread you are referring to.
 
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Pre-Flop Odds without knowing opponents cards?

That is called a starting hand chart! And You can find one here:
https://www.cardschat.com/poker-starting-hands-percentage.php

And why are You interested on your odds based on table size ???

It's very simple:
There is no possible starting hand that is a favorite when anyone on the table calls
except for a heads up game. The combined odds of your opponents will always be
higher than your own odds. So basically You will only come to the conclusion that playing
poker is a stupid idea....

That's why You play good hands aggressive... To make sure You only get 1 or 2 callers max.
Your potential odds against 8 opponents are completely irrelevant.
 
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Thank you all for your help and put me on track.
Although I didn't find the average odds against more the 1 opponent yet, the starting hands are a really useful.
 
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Hello JuiceeQ and apologies for the delay in reply

Where is it that you see "in real time" and what thread are you talking about? Obviously any calculator isn't going to be able to calculate accurate odds without knowing opponents hole cards, which would be after the hand. Calculators are generally used in study, with the "did I make the right call?" question in mind. But would really like to know which thread you are referring to.

Here is an image file I have attached of the thread from which i quoted this, I say thread but it is actually the odds calculators page itself.
note where it reads 'use it in real-time to know your exact chances of winning and losing or take a look afterwards'
What do you make of it?

my mind has too many miles left to be 'on the turn :ciao:
 

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