nuts get reraised on the flop

I am on BB with 10Jos. Two limpers at six man 5NL table. I have about $3.

Flop comes 9QK with 2 spades.

I lead out with a 10c bet into a 15c pot. UTG reraises to 35c. BTN folded.

What should I do here?

I think it's possible he has QK or maybe KJ, or perhaps 99, in which case he'd probably call an all in. But I also don't want to scare him away.

3-bet, run to the bank.

Iwould just call then check in the turn to see what happens. you did hit your straight but you may not have the nuts hear. when the turn come with a jack then i would play very carefully

Another things is he too could have 10,J or 2 spades

c9h13no3 said:

3-bet, run to the bank.

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This, the only way to get the maximum out of this hand is to 3 bet here.

is he agressive?
if he is, go all in, if he isn't, I would call and check on the turn, and goes all in on any of his bets

raise.

godoy said:

is he agressive?
if he is, go all in, if he isn't, I would call and check on the turn, and goes all in on any of his bets

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Wtf are we in the twilight zone? How the **** does this make sense?

c9h13no3 said:

Wtf are we in the twilight zone? How the **** does this make sense?

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I really loled at this. No comment.

If you don't want to put more money into the pot when you absolutely know you are ahead, I'm not sure what you are hoping to get out of playing poker.

I would raise to $1.25 and hope he'll put me all in or at least call. If he were to call shove on the turn, well what happened???

Start with a full stack or gtfo!

I would raise 3x his raise, smallish bet on the turn, if he calls I make another small bet on the river, if he raises I'll probably shove, idk stack sizes that would help.

Dreams of Tragedy said:

Iwould just call then check in the turn to see what happens. you did hit your straight but you may not have the nuts hear. when the turn come with a jack then i would play very carefully

Another things is he too could have 10,J or 2 spades

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This is wrong

marginal said:

This, the only way to get the maximum out of this hand is to 3 bet here.

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This is right

godoy said:

is he agressive?
if he is, go all in, if he isn't, I would call and check on the turn, and goes all in on any of his bets

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This is silly

c9h13no3 said:

Wtf are we in the twilight zone? How the **** does this make sense?

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This is funny

For those who got the answer wrong...STOP TRYING TO TRAP PEOPLE ON DRAWY BOARDS ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU DONT KNOW EXACTLY WHAT 2 CARDS THEY HOLD.

Why has this guy reraised?

Is he bluffing? well in that case he folds to your bet, but he wasnt putting any more money in the pot anyway (unless he hit a mirical suckout card) so you lose nothing by betting.

Is he on a draw? Well if you reraise, he is still on a draw. If you call one of 2 things happen.

1) He hits.. you lose

2) He misses.. his equity drops and its harder to get him to put his entire stack in.

Has he got a decent hand and is raising to protect?

If you call one of 2 things happen

1) The scare card comes in. He thinks you hit the flush. He stops putting money in the pot.

2) The scare card dosent come in and you are in EXACTLY the same situation as you were on the flop, he wants the last raise.


So lets put that all together.

He is bluffing, you neither gain nor lose anything by raising.

He is on the draw, this is the point you can get the most money in against him. If you shove here and he hits, it dosent matter because he gets such bad odds to draw that if you repeat this 1000 times you show a profit and he shows a loss.

He has a decent hand. He is not folding! He is also scared of the draw. If you got him all in on the flop and the draw hits.. well it dosent matter does it, you are all in.

STOP TRYING TO TRAP IN SITUATIONS WHERE TRAPPING IS WRONG!

Dreams of Tragedy said:

Iwould just call then check in the turn to see what happens. you did hit your straight but you may not have the nuts hear. when the turn come with a jack then i would play very carefully

Another things is he too could have 10,J or 2 spades

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If english is your first language, then you should spell this word "here". "Hear" is what you do with your ear....that is the only context in which "hear" should be used. If english is not your first language, sorry....I am an ass.

Point number 2. He does have the nuts at this point....I have no clue what you're talking about. If he has 2 spades we WANT him to call an all-in. We are ahead at this point.

Point number 3 - Sorry...I feel like being a dick today because I am really hungover from last night.

WVHillbilly said:

Start with a full stack or gtfo!

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+1

If you're asking questions with the nuts. Please pm me your username and what site you play on so I can sit on your table. Of course you shove if he's on a draw you make sure he pays to hit. Why would you even try and trap on a board with 2 spades and you don't have none? Why aren't you sitting with 100bbs?

lol @ this thread.

If you don't know how to play the nuts on a drawy board you have a lot to learn about poker.

Unless you're sure you're going to win, you need to price draws. That's it. Once you learn a thing or two about poker you can start trying to get tricky with it, but not at these stakes. Jam, you're getting called. (It's just $3).

Now against a tricky opponent with effective stacks upwards of $500, I personally wouldn't try to get tricky here. If my options are call, raise, or fold, my options are only raise at every opportunity. If I pair up or a spade hits or the board pairs I no longer have the nuts. Thats 11 spades to hit (nobody says he's holding one...) 4 to 6 cards to pair me up, depending on how many spades I have, and 8 cards that pair the board, for a whopping 23 cards that make my hand stop being the nuts. 3 shy of half the deck, and you want to CALL!?

Of course, he can't have a set, a flush draw, and a better straight draw, but those are the kinds of hands you can be up against. And thank your lucky stars when villain shows up with TpTk or a bluff attempt, because that board is DRIPPING WET, and the possibility of you improving is slim to none.

flat call, itll make him think he ahs the best ahnd and youll get paid off no matter what you do on the turn

playerk7 said:

flat call, itll make him think he ahs the best ahnd and youll get paid off no matter what you do on the turn

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Already answered previously.

Stu_Ungar said:

STOP TRYING TO TRAP IN SITUATIONS WHERE TRAPPING IS WRONG!

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This thread is bumming me out a bit. OP has posted here asking for help/suggestions and then to see some of the comments that follow kinda piss me off (he's here asking for help... he wants to learn... he's not posting to tell you how big his dick is... so why flog him like it's an ego bashing contest?).

OP, I think if you were to read Stu_Ungar's posts on here there's some great info. for you. As far as some of the other's go, please disregard them & try not to let it keep you from posting more questions in the future.

too afraid of being attacked to reply to this 1...pm me for an answer

Poker Orifice said:

This thread is bumming me out a bit. OP has posted here asking for help/suggestions and then to see some of the comments that follow kinda piss me off (he's here asking for help... he wants to learn... he's not posting to tell you how big his dick is... so why flog him like it's an ego bashing contest?).

OP, I think if you were to read Stu_Ungar's posts on here there's some great info. for you. As far as some of the other's go, please disregard them & try not to let it keep you from posting more questions in the future.

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Bravo ....

Perfect ....

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Stu is right on base as always.

personally with that hand id just call his beat and wait to hit other wise you could be just feeding the other player money which i have done many times lol

dazzaboi said:

personally with that hand id just call his beat and wait to hit other wise you could be just feeding the other player money which i have done many times lol

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What are we waiting to hit? We flopped the nuts. Also, pls read Stu's post.

STU is right.
when you a flop str8 none will think you have hit it, i've even seen it with better players..
No slow playing with a flush draw!!