Originally Posted by kmixer
I have not changed my game at all. Been playing A2 for a raise form most positions. Playing A3sx from all positions and for a raise from late positions and playing AAxx as long as the xx are two cards that play well with the AA especially a pair that is not suited to the A.
Seeing all of these laggy donkies taking down big pots and having 10$ win sessions playing 72/5
Should I hang in there and keep up the play with the hopes that a turn around is coming. Or do I need to make adjustments to my game?
I see you refer to 72/5, 76/6, 74/23 - what does that mean? I don't raise a naked low (A29J) from any position. A3sxx you mean? Tie or loss is worse than quartering, if a 2 does not hit. Why would you prefer a pair that is not suited to the ace? Or was that a mistake?
Not of the opinion that you should take a break, except long enough to figure out where the holes in your game are. Unlike NL, where aggression, position, bet size, opponent reads rely on your mindset, LO8 is a more game of precision. Every play is either correct or incorrect. You have the Hwang book, right? It may not give you all the answers, but it might help.
Originally Posted by dj11
In O8 in general, I am a fan of sneak a peek with decent hands, maybe even some skip connected middle of the pack hands like 578J, or 468T but probably you need to fold a few more hands and tighten up your current range.
Huge mistake. Those are the worst hands imaginable. You don't call bad hands on a lark or a whim, or to 'change it up' in limit. You don't see a cheap flop with a hand that has so little chance of high or low. That 468T is mathematically impossible to scoop 1) unless no one has any low cards -unlikely, or 2) The board falls A235x or something like that, also unlikely. That 2 gapper at the J is suicide. I have a feeling those 2 examples are not in kmixer's range. If so, he is beyond any help I could offer. lol
Originally Posted by kmixer
From up front yes I will limp to encourage more people to come in behind. From later positions I will raise because I know the limpers ahead of me and the blinds are most likely not going anywhere for one more bet and the pot is built. As far as building multi way pots go, yesterday at this one table I had seen A2 at showdown in three people's hands with the low on board 4 out of 29 times (are those odds realistic for this game?) so in this case I am not thinking the multiway pots were a good idea. But just try to get a micro player to fold A2. I dont care if he has nothing to go with it. I quit playing ring PLO8 because even when you win you lose.
The first 2 sentences - correct play.
While 4 of 29 maybe be a teensy bit high (maybe by 1), it is realistic at full ring. But you answered your own question. It's that high because
you won't get anyone to fold it. But you want
a multi-way pot. Hwang covers this very well. When you quarter a pot, you want as many in it as possible. You will raise this when there are more than 3 people in the pot, especially after the turn, when the bets are double and people making mistakes are pot committed. hehehe
When there are 4 or more in the pot, worst you'll usually
do is break even or better if there's dead money in ther pot. Worst you can actually
do (that 4 out of 29) is lose 1/6 of the pot, and that is ONLY if there are 4 people in the pot. Max loss is 1/6, but it's probably much less than that, with the dead money. So, in the small chance you 1/6th the pot, it is still correct to reraise the nut low with more than 3 in the pot. It is just unfortunate, but never a big mistake.