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I am a new player looking to improve. Right now I'm only doing play money and free rolls to get to grips with the game.
I am a new player looking to improve. Right now I'm only doing play money and free rolls to get to grips with the game. Would you say Zoom or Cash games are better for learning? I am fully aware that play money is not realistic in any way but just for sake of learning.
Also, when doing free rolls what is the best strategy to survive? I find that being tight aggressive works but I tend to be scared to make the big calls and when I do I bust out or fold after investing a lot into the pot (way too scared of sets and flushes).
Keep on playing freerolls, start with the smallest cash games you can find and play tight, stick to starting hands charts. Zoom is too fast for you to learn, doesn't allow to identify villains behaviour patterns and will make you loose a lot of money very fast. I speak from experience.
I think cash games(micro stakes) are better than zoom becouse in zoom you are always on new table with new opponents its hard to find holes in somones game and harder to put opponent on range....i dont know how big you bankroll is but if you want to become cash game player i advice you to read as many startegy articales on internet,maybe find somone with cash game expiriance to coach you and start from micro stakes... gl gl
To get more experienced: regular tables, you see every hand from beginning till the end
The (dis-)advantage of zoom:
- you leave when you fold
- unless your opponents use a big database, it's poker without info on any player
Like others said, I say avoid zoom right now for real money. Being at a table and watching others play in hands you've folded is very beneficial, something you won't get playing Zoom poker.
However I personally suggest your first real-money games should be super micro stakes sit-and-go's and MTTs. If you can play on Pokerstars, look at all their on-demand MTTs as well as other super-micro sit-and-go's. You'll see a lot more hands for the $ invested, which IMO is the most important thing for you right now.
What to choose, everyone decides for himself. If you do not have a lot of time, it's better to play the cash, since you can at any time fix the profit and exit the game. In the tournament you need to finish the game.
If you decide to focus on the cache, it's best to start with regular regular tables. It is better not to play very exotic options of tables from the very beginning (for example with an ante).
Hi, I certainly recommend reading articles, watching video tutorials, pokerstreams. Play money practice is a waste of time, rather just play freerolls.
Do not play to survive Freerools, bad strategy.
You need basic tournament strategy, (tournament phases, starting hands tables, stacksizeing).
Zoom isn't an accurate representation of poker. It's designed to allow players flick through many different tables, hole cards & positions until they find a spot they like - usually a premium hand. I hate it & i can't imagine it breeds good habits for when you go back to playing proper poker or tourns.
Zoom is a modality where players are more conservative, hands are played much stronger and less amount of speculative hands.
In cash, we have more knowledge of the table, since it is a fixed environment, we can better know the rivals and their style of play they have.
This allows us to be less conservative in cash than in zoom.
When you play with real money, you will discover where you are most comfortable, whether in cash or at zoom tables.
If you are afraid of making large payments, it is probably because you do not know how to build the range of combinations that your rival can have. (estimate if you are better or worse than your opponent, with the cards you have, and the cards you suppose the opponent has.)
The important thing is that you feel safe when you play. If in a situation you have doubts or feel fear, it is probably because something you did wrong, or did not pay attention in due course.
Be patient, that is the first step to improve.
I am a new player who wants to improve. Right now only make money and free rolls to handle the game. Would you say that Zoom or cash games are better for learning? I am fully aware that gambling money is not realistic in any way, but because of learning.
Also, when you make free rolls, which is the best strategy for survival? I think that if I'm aggressive, I'm afraid to make big calls and when I do, I will quit or will quit after having invested heavily in the pot (too scared of sets and flushes).
Better play formats that are fast and dynamic. May be more difficult but in poker not easy.