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I have been playing poker for atleast five years and I hit a point where I was really good and making good money and then it seems like a new wave of players came in and are different than before. I played my way through the learning curve before and it cost me to the point of almost quitting before I started making money, I want to get ahead of the curve as fast as possible so someone please help me out with some suggestions on learning the newest and up to date game theory
 
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Poker isn't as soft as it used to be. There are fewer fish plus they're not as bad as they were several years ago, and the regs at any given level are better than they used to be.

How and how much you need to revamp your game to be competitive now depends on multiple factors - how good your game was, what level you want to play and how much that level has changed, etc.

I suggest you start playing at entry-level stakes, or at least well below where you used to play. See how your game stands up now and look for how poker has changed plus how you need to change. At that point, you can get into the hows and whys behind those changes.
 
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I appreciate the post bro, especially since it seems to be a topic that not many want to touch. My problem is that what I did learn doesn't translate well to the game now....I mean I know what I know but the game now is made to Take advantage of the old ways.....I need coaching on the way things are now and the way it will be so that by the time will be becomes is, I will be well versed and won't have this deep decline
 
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The stuff you're saying is very general. You need to find out what and how much *you* need to learn to be competitive now. And that depends on what you know, how you used to play, and the level you want to play at now.

For example, the game is generally looser than it was a few years ago. So, it will probably be a bigger adjustment for you if you were tight.

As well, the play has changed more at higher levels, so the lower you want to play now, the less you'll have to learn and adjust.

You might want to go spend at least a few hours watching games at various levels, with an eye to assessing what and how much you've fallen behind the curve.
 
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my suggestion is to find a coach...if you want to get improved.
think at your level, if you want to level up, a very good private coach is needed.
 
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my suggestion is to find a coach...if you want to get improved.
think at your level, if you want to level up, a very good private coach is needed.
I may not have been clear before that I'm not against coaching. What I'm getting at is about assessing your individual needs in terms of what and how much you need to learn and adapt to get your game to where you want it to be. Since it seems like such an assessment is the first thing a good coach is likely to do anyway, the better you know your needs, the less assessing he'll have to do.
 
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The simplest answer is using an OTE strategy, which in term is unexploitable, players that sway away from OTE will become exploitable to us,

this is simple against bad players but as you move up it becomes more of a deadlock in my oppinion the best way to keep on top at the higher stakes is to constantly think about your image,

for example if people work out how solid we are playing, we make certain adjustments knowing that they are putting us on the OTE range this can allow us to capitalise on some big pots when we flop a speculative hand or a low hand.

Also these OTE regs will consistantly fold in spots where they know most of the time this is not a bluff,
they dont care if we are bluffing since the profitable play is to fold long term,
so the more convincing our play the better success we will have

essentially though as the new breed are coming through we need to be creative ourselves and be good enough to come up with our own tactics
 
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watch the final table

the final table of the sunday million (with all cards face up so you can see how each player think) is available at pokerstars,

i don´t have so mny time as you in poker but for me watching those giants playing give a lot of knowledge ( at least i think so), so maybe it works for you too
 
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New Gambler

The newer players tend to gamble more. They look at hitting a flush or a straight as though it's better odds than a blackjack table.
 
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I was having the same problem. I played a lot for 6 years. Playing higher limits online and live. I got an illness that caused me not to be able to play. I just started to play again in the last year. Since I have been back it seems that everyone is extremely aggressive. The best way I find to combat this is to be aggressive yourself. You don't want to get run over at the tables because you are playing too tight. I agree with a post above saying that you need to be aware of your table image. The biggest help for me atleast I notice now more than before is players betting patterns. That seems to be the best way to figure out what is going on.
 
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the lets say "new style" is a lot more aggressive as it was before. Players try to push their hands as hard as possible. They are less scared of losing and focused on the win. Especelly players from east europe are using this style. I believe that in a few years it will swing back , cause I believe that the "old style" is in the long run more sucessfull
 
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read super system 2 by doyle brunson combined by a deep analysis of small ball theory by daniel negreanu. should be ok to beat players nowadays
 
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