Multi-tabling: Adding More

I recently started a bankroll building challenge. In this challenge, I'm not only trying to build a bankroll, but also learning to use a HUD and learning to multi-table. 2 tables now feels no different to me than 1 table once did with the rare occasion of having a couple of tough decisions at the same time. So, at this point, I'm wondering if I should start adding tables.

If I add tables, do I just add 1? It seems like nobody ever plays 3 tables at once; always opting for an even number of tables that are double-ups of the last (For example: going from 2 to 4, 4 to 8, 8 to 16...). Well, logically it only seems right to go to 3 tables, then 4, then 5, but having never seen anyone speak of playing an odd number of tables has me wondering about the subject. How many tables do you play (if you multi-table)? How'd you progress to that number? Is going from 2 to 3 a waste of time and potential winnings that I could be making off of a 4th table? I'm starting off underrolled, so I'd like some insight before I step it up.

Jumping from 4 tables to 8 would be insane.

Just keep adding a single table as you go, add more when you are comfortable.

As for how many people play, its all different. I usually play either 6 or 9.

I think the ideal is 4. With that number, you can fit all, without overlapping on your screen. By then, you are confident to read your opponents table by table.

Once you get past 4 tables, you really need to be using something like TableNinja II that gives you a view of all tables' action. They recently added a side-bar feature, that does this - showing cards, pot and the board. The hot-keys and everything else are also useful.

OgelSplash said:

Once you get past 4 tables, you really need to be using something like TableNinja II that gives you a view of all tables' action. They recently added a side-bar feature, that does this - showing cards, pot and the board. The hot-keys and everything else are also useful.

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Awesome recommendation, thank you!

Personally, I've only just finished my second session at 4 tables. I decided to go ahead and make the jump from 2 to 4 since I'm still able to see all of the tables. I've had to adjust my game a little bit until I catch up with the action, playing quite a bit tighter until I have the absolute nuts and not playing as many limped pots where I have to make decisions and things like that. Lost in the first session, won in the second. Gonna stick with 4 tables for the time being. Maybe I'll put a stop-loss in effect for it.

rubbish about table ninja for more than 4 tables , i play 6tables 6max normally and have them overlapped and keep up fine. I play 14 tables of full ring using an AHK script that i adapted for my own preferences. you didn't mention the monthly fee to use TN2 . theres plenty of free AHK scripts out there that will do the same basic things as TN which you only really need once you get above 9 or 10 tables.then you can use hem across every site not have to buy another version for each site that you want to use TN on.

Keith_MM said:

rubbish about table ninja for more than 4 tables , i play 6tables 6max normally and have them overlapped and keep up fine. I play 14 tables of full ring using an AHK script that i adapted for my own preferences. you didn't mention the monthly fee to use TN2 . theres plenty of free AHK scripts out there that will do the same basic things as TN which you only really need once you get above 9 or 10 tables.then you can use hem across every site not have to buy another version for each site that you want to use TN on.

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Good information! Do you need to be super savvy to use AutoHotKey scripts though?

just proficient in google to find the script that does what you want then you just run it . THis is what my adapted script does. run a main stack at full size and then move tables you want to watch showdowns on off to the side slots using the middle mouse button and then back again after you make any notes about the showdown



;================================================================================================
;Move Table - Main Stack position Upper Left - poker stars - Rage2100
;adapted by keith from the original script published at
;http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerf...multi-tabling-nakamura-rage2100-a-171157.html
;================================================================================================
;Middle mouse button moves table under mouse to next empty slot or back into stack again
;F1 can be used to move tables to the home position at the start of the session
;Escape closes table and updates counter
;================================================================================================

Class_Name=PokerStarsTableFrameClass ;Will only detect and move Poker Stars tables, use window spy to find table class name for other sites.


;================================================================================================
;Read values from MoveTable_Config1_PS.ini file
;================================================================================================

; ini:="MoveTable_Config1_PS.ini"
;iniRead, X_home, %ini%, Location, X_home, 0
;iniRead, Y_home, %ini%, Location, Y_home, 0
;iniRead, Slot1_X, %ini%, Location, Slot1_X, 0
;iniRead, Slot1_Y, %ini%, Location, Slot1_Y, 0
;iniRead, Slot2_X, %ini%, Location, Slot2_X, 0
;iniRead, Slot2_Y, %ini%, Location, Slot2_Y, 0
;iniRead, Slot3_X, %ini%, Location, Slot3_X, 0
;iniRead, Slot3_Y, %ini%, Location, Slot3_Y, 0
X_home=10
Y_home=10
Slot1_X= 1400
Slot1_Y= 0
Slot2_X= 1400
Slot2_Y= 340
Slot3_X= 1400
Slot3_Y= 690

;================================================================================================

S1=0 ;Counts how many tables are in Slot 1
S2=0 ;Counts how many tables are in Slot 2
S3=0 ;Counts how many tables are in Slot 3
T=150 ;Tolerance in pixels used in case a table slightly moves

;================================================================================================
MButton::
CoordMode, Mouse ;uses screen coordinates rather than relative
MouseGetPos,mouseX,mouseY,tableID
IfWinExist, ahk_id %tableID%
WinGetPos, X, Y,,, %ahk_id%
WinGetClass, class
If class=%Class_Name%

;check if we are clicking bet/check/fold on the main stack
;if so send a mouseclick to mouse position
;before moving the window
relX=mouseX-X
relY=mouseY-Y
;msgbox,the mouse is at X%mouseX%,Y%mouseY%

If (relX>684) AND (relX< 1330) AND (relY>840) AND (relY<930)
{
Click,mouseX,mouseY
; MsgBox,the mouse is at X%mouseX%,Y%mouseY%
}

If (X < (X_home + T)) AND (Y < (Y_home + T))
{
If (S1 <= S2) AND (S1 <= S3)
{
WinMove,,, Slot1_X, Slot1_Y,491,363
S1+=1
} else
If (S2 < S1) AND (S2 <= S3)
{
WinMove,,, Slot2_X, Slot2_Y,491,363

S2+=1
} else
If (S3 < S1) AND (S3 < S2)
{
WinMove,,, Slot3_X, Slot3_Y,491,363

S3+=1
}

} else
If (X > (Slot1_X - T)) AND (Y < (Slot1_Y + T))
{
If S1 > 0
{
WinMove,,, X_home, Y_home,1336,946
S1-=1
} else
s1=0
WinMove,,, X_home, Y_home,1336,946


} else
If (X > (Slot3_X - T)) AND (Y > (Slot3_Y - T))
{
If S3 > 0
{
WinMove,,, X_home, Y_home,1336,946
S3-=1
} else
S3=0
WinMove,,, X_home, Y_home,1336,946

} else

If (X > (Slot2_X - T)) AND (Y > (Slot2_Y - T))
{
If S2 > 0
{
WinMove,,, X_home, Y_home,1336,946,,
S2-=1
} else
S2=0
WinMove,,, X_home, Y_home,1336,946,,

}
return


Escape::
CoordMode, Mouse
MouseGetPos,,,tableID
IfWinExist, ahk_id %tableID%
WinGetPos, X, Y,,, %ahk_id%
WinGetClass, class
If class=%Class_Name%

If (X < (X_home + T)) AND (Y < (Y_home + T))
{
} else

If (X > (Slot1_X - T)) AND (Y < (Slot1_Y + T))
{
PostMessage, 0x10, 0, 0,, %ahk_id% ;Close the window
S1-=1

} else
If (X > (Slot2_X - T)) AND (Y > (Slot2_Y - T)) AND (Y < Slot3_Y)
{
PostMessage, 0x10, 0, 0,, %ahk_id% ;Close the window
S2-=1

} else
If (X > (Slot3_X - T)) AND (Y > (Slot3_Y - T))
{
PostMessage, 0x10, 0, 0,, %ahk_id% ;Close the window
S3-=1
}
return


F1::
MouseGetPos,,,tableID
IfWinExist, ahk_id %tableID%
WinGetClass, class
If class=%Class_Name%
WinMove,,, X_home, Y_home,1336,946
return

to use the script , copy and save the script text above as movetable.ahk or any other name you want. install AHK and then open 20 or so stars tables - don't sit at them though. press F1 on each table and it should make it max size and move it to the top left of the screen. once you have 20 tables open save the layout as a custom layout either on the table shortcut or via client mainbar view-save custom layout. select the custom layout you create for this . then close the tables. then as you sit at future tables they will be opened already in position and you won't have to go through the positioning setup part again. As you can keep up with the action then you can just add another table. don't go mad though . you need to be able to think through hands and remember the action to keep up , not be able to click buttons mindlassly without timing out.

tenbob said:

Jumping from 4 tables to 8 would be insane.

Just keep adding a single table as you go, add more when you are comfortable.

As for how many people play, its all different. I usually play either 6 or 9.

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^^pretty much this. Adding more than one at a time will be a disaster.

heres an altered version of the acreenshot to fit the pagesize.

add 1 at a time if you feel comfortable, although if you notice it affects your winrate too much then remove a table.

Like a balancing act that suits you best. Find the number odf tables that you can comfortably play and what will give you the best winrate

I've added one table and I'm actually pulling a higher winrate with one more table. I tried adding 2 (to 4 total), but it did not go well as I lost a buy-in or so. Keith, you came with some killer knowledge and I appreciate it very much! That's going to be very useful to me someday and I'm sure many others. I definitely wouldn't know about this otherwise.