Multi tabling

I have been playing recently and I am just getting frustrated and tilting too much because for the past month I have gone long stretches with no cards. I multitabled after that and then hands came just enough that I did not get bored and itchy to play with any two cards. Do you feel that can be something that could get me in trouble or should I keep working on just 1 table at a time. Thanks for the help

You may just need a break from poker; it sounds like you are on "long-term tilt" at the moment. You may not think you are on tilt, but you could be getting emotional quickly as a result of a lost hand or stretch of bad cards in a session. If you can maintain the same focus and level of play while multi-tabling, then that isn't the issue.

Take a week off, maybe two. You'll come back to the game feeling mentally refreshed and intensely sharp!

I have to say that was some good advice. I am going to take some time and just not think about poker. For me this has become a game that I really like. I had a really good year last year turning 90 to 909.60. It has been a struggle this year and I think its because I feel that I was really understanding what I am doing, but it seems now that as I have understood more. I just think that I need to outplay everybody, make the dumb ass hero calls, and so forth. Before I really stuck to my game and did what I know I could do and then I expanded my game and now thought I needed to just go crazy. I am down 150 so far for the year, but their is a long way to go and your advice has just gave me some more insight into what I need to do.

Everyones different, im best at 2 tables, make sure u can focus , ifs a medium

I play 24 tables, to stay dicipline.

If you're losing and tilting at one table, the worst possible thing you can do is add more tables. If you're a losing player, adding tables will only amplify those losses.

What I was trying to explain is that I want to multi table because it keeps me more disciplined. When I play one there are stretches where you go for a number of hands without really getting anything, but when you have 4 tables it makes it much easier to focus and let hands go because you have so many other hands to worry about. I am actually winning more with more than 2 tables than just playing 1. I have no clue why it is this way but it has worked pretty good for me. I used to believe what the previous poster said, but I cant focus completely on one table and I get bored a little bit.

RegHC23 said:

I have to say that was some good advice. I am going to take some time and just not think about poker. For me this has become a game that I really like. I had a really good year last year turning 90 to 909.60. It has been a struggle this year and I think its because I feel that I was really understanding what I am doing, but it seems now that as I have understood more. I just think that I need to outplay everybody, make the dumb ass hero calls, and so forth. Before I really stuck to my game and did what I know I could do and then I expanded my game and now thought I needed to just go crazy. I am down 150 so far for the year, but their is a long way to go and your advice has just gave me some more insight into what I need to do.

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This happens to me periodically and forces me to take a little break. I'll be super sharp and focused for awhile, but when I start tasting success, I'll suddenly start thinking "Hey, I'll play this garbage hand. I can just outplay them postflop!" Which can be true, but can also lead me to make a bunch of stupid bets trying to take the pot down. A break resets my mind and puts me back to focus mode.

I've hardly played a hand this month, sat down last night for my first real session 6max cash, 6 tables and ended the night about 30bb/100 up one of my best sessions. Before this I was playing constantly and slowly getting worse, tilting easier and playing looser and generally losing confidence. A break away from the tables can make all the difference.

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I thought part of being a good player is watching the other players when you aren't in a hand. Who's tight, who's loose etc etc. If you're playing at many tables how can you do this properly ? Do you start playing the cards more than the players ? Can you still watch and pick up as much as you need across all the tables ?

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It comes with practice, but yes. And use of a HUD for more than about 4 tables is really necessary for most people. But it's a total myth that multi-tablers can only play ABC poker and can't play the players. Of course they can.

Like any other form of learning, with multi-tabling at first your brain is overwhelmed with too much information. So you have to start out playing very robotic, ABC poker (especially without a HUD to help you keep track). After awhile your brain starts adapting and segregating the tables and players such that you can almost subconsciously keep up with what's going on. But again, some people are just more adept at this than others.

If your having trouble with the multitabling simpley play at one table and see how it goes for you, From my exp when I play only one MTT, My focus and decision making is at a much higher level then multitabling, good luck and hope you can get back on track again'

Alright guys I gave myself one last chance to play cash games and see if I could turn it around and it just continues to amaze me how close I am to winning but cant put together any positives at all. Here are some hands and see if you can help me on what I need to do.
I was in the small blind in a 25nl session. Middle position raised to 75 cents and I called from the small blind with A9 suited.
Flop Comes AKJ rainbow. I check he bets 1 dollar into a pot of 1.75 and I call. The turn comes and Ad. I check he bets 2.50 and I call the 2.50 bet. Pot is now 8.75/ River comes with Qd. I check again and he bets 6.75 and I call. Villain turns over AJ for the full house and he takes down 22.25.

Sorry but you really played that hand badly.

1. Fold A9 OOP facing a raise. If you're going to play it consider 3betting to gain some initiative and narrow your opponents range. It's a hand that's easily dominated, as you saw here.
2. Don't play so passive. call/check/call/check/call/check/call is a terrible line with a hand like this (or most any hand unless you're reeling in a mega fish). You have absolutely no idea where you are in the hand at any time.
3. Post actual HH files from your poker client rather than trying to type all that out. Also post them in the analysis forum if you want some expert advice (but be prepared take constructive criticism).

Another hand I had was I was once again in that damn small blind AdKc. Cutoff raises to 75 cents and I call to see the flop. The flop comes out Ac7d2c. He bets 1.45 into the pot and I call. Pot is 4.59 and the turn bring a Qs I check and then he checks. The river turns over the 5c. I bet 3 dollars and he raises to 7.50. and I call and he shows over QJ suited clubs for the flush.
3rd hand I was on the button and under the gun raises to 75 cents. and I call and big blind calls also. Pot is 2d5d6s. and the pot is 2.35. Everyone checks to me and I bet 1.99. and the big blind raises to 4 and the under the gun folds and I call. Pot is now 10.36 and a 4 spade come on the turn. He goes all in for 8.02 and I feel that I have to fold.
For the total session I am down 23.06 and basically in those 3 hands alone I am down 25.42. I have no clue what the hell I am doing and I am not seeing objectively what I am doing wrong. I just bleeding my winnings and just playing badly. I wanted to take this month exclusively to work on my cash game play, but its just killing me. What do yall think

OK I agree I probably was too passive, but damn do I just sit and wait until I get a hand in position and never play any cards oop. Im just wondering is that the bad problem that I am having is that I am just playing to many marginal hands from the early position. I appreciate the vine. Just trying to get better.

I just gave you a brief summary of what you're doing wrong, and I see the pattern continuing in the hands you just posted.

Seriously, get over to the analysis forums, post some HH's, listen and learn. You need to work on your fundamentals, specifically position play and aggression. If you'll listen those guys will set you straight.

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Alright guys I gave myself one last chance to play cash games and see if I could turn it around and it just continues to amaze me how close I am to winning but cant put together any positives at all. Here are some hands and see if you can help me on what I need to do.
I was in the small blind in a 25nl session. Middle position raised to 75 cents and I called from the small blind with A9 suited.
Flop Comes AKJ rainbow. I check he bets 1 dollar into a pot of 1.75 and I call. The turn comes and Ad. I check he bets 2.50 and I call the 2.50 bet. Pot is now 8.75/ River comes with Qd. I check again and he bets 6.75 and I call. Villain turns over AJ for the full house and he takes down 22.25.

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This is exactly why you need a break. Calling with A9 OOP puts you in a terrible position postflop. All you could really be comfortable with on the flop is two pair, trip 9's, or a flush. It depends on the opponent, but you can usually expect a big Ace from a middle position raiser, which makes calling OOP a generally bad decision. Take a break and get back to basic position play. That's usually all it takes in low stakes.

Alright do you feel that makes exploitable. I mean I guess I cant say much about myself, but damn when you only play in position how do you get action. I play at America Cardroom and I am in the same room with the same 4 freakin people everytime. its either stay at the level and deal with them or move down and deal with others. Im just damn confused. Hell I continuation bet in position with a raise and get popped on the river. Sorry for my anger, but damn when you tell me if I listen like im not trying to here what people have to say. I mean damn. I take all criticism, but don't try to down me like I am just a total idiot.

They are just trying to help you.

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Alright do you feel that makes exploitable. I mean I guess I cant say much about myself, but damn when you only play in position how do you get action. I play at America Cardroom and I am in the same room with the same 4 freakin people everytime. its either stay at the level and deal with them or move down and deal with others. Im just damn confused. Hell I continuation bet in position with a raise and get popped on the river. Sorry for my anger, but damn when you tell me if I listen like im not trying to here what people have to say. I mean damn. I take all criticism, but don't try to down me like I am just a total idiot.

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I didn't talk to you like you were an idiot. Just explaining why it is usually not a good idea to play that hand. You don't have to ONLY play in good position, but when you are facing a raise, you have to take into consideration what will happen postflop. Position is a big part of that. If the player in the hand with you was some crazy maniac aggro guy, you can justify it. If it is an average or solid player or even an unknown, folding to the raise would be the best course of action most of the time.

You were probably referring to me about the "listen" thing.

Sorry, it wasn't meant to suggest that you don't listen. I was suggesting that you seek out analysis and make sure to listen, because you're going to get honest feedback.

I say that because often we get people posting a hand and asking for advice, then not liking what they hear. I never understand why someone asks, then argues with the answer, but it happens often. Hence my suggestion.

cool that's all I wanted to know. I am easily up for any type of criticism. I need because I cant get any better without it. Its fun for me to discuss what happens in my hands to other people they let me know when I do stupid stuff like I guess I did earlier today. Some people say take a break, but I just believe in jumping back on that horse and getting better. I just want to be great and make lots of money on the side.

I think when you are card dead u should be looking at what players are doing and what hands they showdown with....and betting patterns....also focus on hand range outside of the big hands we know to play

you can play zoom, or rush poker, it's up to 4 tables if you want it and you will have a lot of good hands in short amount of time... a LOT of coolers and bad beats too.. good luck!