My 2 cents for you as a starting player... i think limit is a game that is good to keep the variance to a minimum while you are learning... one thing you may wish to consider is dabbling into No Limit in order to protect your hands and be able to make it too expensive for the players who limp in on a limit table with the 7/2 etc...
Originally Posted by AUPhoenix
Due to my choosing I play mostly microstakes on Full Tilt. I would venture to say probably half of the players at this level will call a 4 cent bet if they have any kind of hand or two big over cards. I have found the best way to make money and consistantly raise your bankroll is to bet small on the flop, raise a small amount on the turn and then raise another small amount on the river. Typically, they finally get the picture you actually might have something where you do or dont.
This i feel is something that you should take wish a grain of salt, although the information above is accurate in certain situations, in other situations this betting style will get you in trouble... one thing you will learn while you play more is that each hand is different, and may require new and unique betting to achieve desired results.
But, I wonder whether most of the 0.04 limit players take the game seriously? and how can I spot a newbie or a seasoned player in a table?
if trying to spot serious players, these are going to be the players that do NOT play the majority of their hands, etc (hard for me to tell on limit tables personally...) BUT!!! one way to find some other players that are taking the game seriously is to take a look into some of the other games (Razz / Stud / Omaha hi/low) due to the fact that a lot of random people just "want to try" holdem and play horribly where in these other games you get a more concentrated assortment of serious players...
I completely agree with playing a TON of hands at one level so that there is a chance to learn where / when / how / etc as well as situations that you will come across...
Thanks guys for the tips...
I should play more hands on this level first, probably until 5k-10k hands and gain some experiences. In this game, what sort of experiences should I be looking for? I mean, how should I study my game? I know there are no exact answer to this, as poker is a game of situation and random cards. But how do I approach the learning?
some things to watch out for / absorb while playing...
1) The importance of position (Acting last is a SIGNIFICANT advantage)
2) The Importance of pot odds
(take the # of cards that improve your hand, and multiply by 4 on flop and 2 on turn, i will explain this more later)
3) Learning when aggression is profitable and when aggression is a loosing play... when people are holding on to the end, and when you can get them to lay down a marginal hand to a bluff...
All in all, poker is a VERY intriguing game with situations that change all the time, and situations that encompass more than just the cards, but pot size, position, etc etc... it is a game that i find can only be taught to a certain extent but mostly needs to be learned through experience...
OOOOK... now to continue my wall of text lol...
: a quick and dirty example, I have KK and you have AA, flop comes K/4/10 rainbow (no matching suits), i obviously have the best hand right? but what are your odds for winning and what price do you need to be getting in the pot to call to see the turn / river?... a rule of thumb is multiply your outs by 4 for the turn and 2 for the river, so in the example you have 2 outs, which equates to 8% on the turn card and 4% of it coming on the river (this 4X / 2X rule only works if you see both turn AND river)... so, for pot odds to be in your 8% range, for a 1$ pot the bet would have to be only 8 cents ... forgive me if my math is inaccurate by the way, and please someone correct me if i am wrong (its late :P )
Essentially your price to call a bet has to be equal or less to the % of making a winning hand for you to have the right pot odds ... a good example is a 5$ pot, i bet 3$ into it (total 8 right now) so you have to call 3 $ into an 8$ pot, you are putting in 37% of the pot, and need a 37% worth of draws for pot odds to be there (37% = 9 outs on the turn and 18 outs on the river)...
i REALLY hope this entire wall of texts can be helpful, if not i apologize for the text wall, and if you found it helpful and had any questions please message me and i can rant a bit more :P