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Ever have this problem where you jump to bigger stakes and get a good grip of it than lose a ton and forced back to micros, but have a hard time playing micros again because you got a taste of the big wins? Any advice on how to fix/solve this?
 
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Back to the micro stakes is not easy especially psychologically, but there is no way back to pick one advantage is that in many fishes and micro'll have no problem passing over, in my experience can not help much I play micro stakes player because I'm new but I hope you reassembling your bank, good luck
 
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Ever have this problem where you jump to bigger stakes and get a good grip of it than lose a ton and forced back to micros, but have a hard time playing micros again because you got a taste of the big wins? Any advice on how to fix/solve this?

No as I have never played anything bigger than micros.

You will have to go back to the basics and grind up your BR and remember patience is a must at poker.

When you were playing bigger stakes were you actually playing within your BR, as you didn't give much info in your post to what levels you were playing and what BI's.

GL with your micros grind :)
 
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No as I have never played anything bigger than micros.

You will have to go back to the basics and grind up your BR and remember patience is a must at poker.

When you were playing bigger stakes were you actually playing within your BR, as you didn't give much info in your post to what levels you were playing and what BI's.

GL with your micros grind :)
$1/2 and 50c/$1... Usually buy in for 100bbs... The problem I'm having at micros is just realizing that the fish don't fold and will continue to chase any and all draws... Unfortunately it seems like they can't miss these draws by the river on every site right now lol
 
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I suggest just trying to conquer a certain level. I'm trying to have a consistent win rate at 25nl, going pretty well. If you're interested, the Polished Poker Vol I helped me greatly.
 
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The problem is I had this level conquered at Bovada, but issues with payment have forced me to look elsewhere...
 
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We wanted to know your bankroll at the time you hit those higher limits?

Your mindset shouldn't have an impact of what levels you play unless your already breaking many bankroll management rules. Plus it sounds your too goal orientated, you shouldn't be looking at the money side of things but the decision side of things. Really your mind should be so busy already with who's at the table, what type of players there are. When your in late position what are your percentages your blinds fold to a steal, fold to cbet ... Are they calling stations? too loose too tight.

Seriously as long as you concentrate picking the right games, then it's all about decision making at the tables and getting it in and folding at the right spots.
 
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Had over $5000 max $14000 when i was playing those limits... Started playing 10c/25c when I had about $500 to $800.. So anywhere from 20 to 32 bbs...
 
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Plus it sounds your too goal orientated, you shouldn't be looking at the money side of things but the decision side of things. Really your mind should be so busy already with who's at the table, what type of players there are. When your in late position what are your percentages your blinds fold to a steal, fold to cbet ... Are they calling stations? too loose too tight. .
Bovada... Also I will not ive been playing way above account limits lately... After reading some threads I realize how I've been playing so wrong at the micros lately.. Trying 2 make moves when the money on the table and less experience of most microstakes players dictates that they wont typically lay down top pair
 
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It looks as the players increase in skill so should your bankroll management... If your lucky enough to hit a heater then drop your buy-in limits and go up in stakes until the fire burns out.


We never want them to lay down top pair, that hand makes us a lot of money :) as long as we know when to lay it down as well.
 
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But yeah perhaps take sometime off the tables and readup and study... Analyze ur game as well, perhaps you've picked up something along the way that's became a leak in ur game, could be just 1 simple thing. Blinds bleeding is my most annoying leak :(
 
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But yeah perhaps take sometime off the tables and readup and study... Analyze ur game as well, perhaps you've picked up something along the way that's became a leak in ur game, could be just 1 simple thing. Blinds bleeding is my most annoying leak :(
Thanks for the advice... I would say I've been noticing that it seems I caught bluff fever and some kind of just call all-ins when I know I got sucked out on bex I'm so mad that they just continue to call on hands I have crushed until the river.. Think I do need to take a decent break from online at least depositing bex I feel like the crazyrunouts really have me constantly rattled right now ... Can work on situations in freerolls (try 2 build some type of roll) and continue to make marginal profits live.. Hopefully in the next couple months pokerstars will be back on the American grid.. Once again thanks for advice Aces2w1n
 
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Yea, man everyone goes through that. It's hard to get used to a certain level and then due to runbad, have to move back down again.

In the end its all a matter of good BRM so you arent forced to go lower. Thing is, if things get to that point, its very important to stay disciplined and keep grinding the lower limit untill you are ready to move back up. Patience is vital in order to succeed in this game.

I myself dont have this patience but if i did i would be rich.
 
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I can relate to this on some level although I've never played high stakes. Any time you have to move down is frustrating - I just did so, myself. And while collecting smaller pots is certainly unfulfilling compared to the pot sizes in the next level up, I seem to appreciate winning pots more frequently, and watching my bankroll return to health.

Set goals for yourself at the lower level and look forward in a positive way to returning healthy, properly rolled and mentally tough to the higher stakes. The brief let down of stepping down should dissipate in the face of a return to winning and the prospects of future conquest.

General Douglas MacArthur said in defeat during WWII, "I shall return" when run out of the Philippines by the Japanese in 1942. And he certainly did. Later, in 1945, he accepted the surrender of Japan, having returned and conquered.
 
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I understand your situation very well. I use to take shots all the time. It is hard to go back down and enjoy the game when you are fighting for pots that once might of been only a BB or two at the bigger tables you played at. I find a break will do me good in these situations. Take a week off or more if you need it. Forget about the bigger games you played in. Hit what ever limits your bankroll allows and once you see your bankroll growing again you will enjoy the game more and be on your way to playing some higher limits again.

Good Luck !
 
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I personally have never played above the micro stakes so I personally wouldn't know. That would be a pain though. I think it would be kinda like going from an online site sponsored freeroll to a live tournament.
 
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Thanks for the advice... I would say I've been noticing that it seems I caught bluff fever and some kind of just call all-ins when I know I got sucked out on bex I'm so mad that they just continue to call on hands I have crushed until the river.. Think I do need to take a decent break from online at least depositing bex I feel like the crazyrunouts really have me constantly rattled right now ... Can work on situations in freerolls (try 2 build some type of roll) and continue to make marginal profits live.. Hopefully in the next couple months pokerstars will be back on the American grid.. Once again thanks for advice Aces2w1n


You don't have to stay away from poker completely, perhaps analyse hands on here, discuss other peoples hands the more you discuss the more you learn.

Don't stop too long or you'll get too rusty. Sometimes you just gotta suck it in and play through the hard times and learn and hope you trim the fat so to speak. Keep your chin up.
 
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You don't have to stay away from poker completely, perhaps analyse hands on here, discuss other peoples hands the more you discuss the more you learn.

Don't stop too long or you'll get too rusty. Sometimes you just gotta suck it in and play through the hard times and learn and hope you trim the fat so to speak. Keep your chin up.
Ya always notice the rust factor coming into play, but I think a depositing break will benefit me in life in general.. A little in the money aspect, but simply allow me 2 put a full effort into school and personal relationships.. Plus I dont have many reliable options due to major issues with a Bovada payout and my lack of overall trust for the software on FF and Betonline.. Will prolly give Carbon another run eventually when I find a card to deposit on the site with.. Overall I think the only options I have in America are Bovada and Carbon because of their superior MTTs and SNGS... I have been taking a ton more time lately just reviewing other peoples hands and trying to help them on plays in situations I sometimes get stuck in it.. My poker lingo isnt the best, but I would say my general knowledge of the game is very high... Thanks for the advice and look forward to reading more of your general insights on the game + help on advancing through the downswings..
 
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$1/2 and 50c/$1... Usually buy in for 100bbs... The problem I'm having at micros is just realizing that the fish don't fold and will continue to chase any and all draws... Unfortunately it seems like they can't miss these draws by the river on every site right now lol

You really played in nl100 ? :D So argue and thinking can only have bad player, not reg or player nl100 sure.. If your opponent does not know the button fold, then we must, more them value betting with our top range, and you can more exploiting bad players....

Maybe you should more play at the microstakes, because I know why you move down limits.. Because you are still far from nl100 and on these limits you will lose only the money, you do not even know basic things in poker, like play vs calling station.
 
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It is best to gradually rise in stakes and don't risk your bankroll. But everyone chooses their own path.
 
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I have to say that I feel strongly related to this thread and to what braveboat said (how the pots you might be winning now were a big blind or two a couple of days ago).
If you find yourself calling allins when you're almost certain you are beaten I suggest not playing for a while. That's a sign of boredom and not giving a flying monkey. You are being the player everyone wants to have at the table and that's not good, although most of us have been that player sometimes. A single day off the tables might do it!
Sooner than later you'll miss the game and I find that to be the most important thing I need when playing at lower levels.
 
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Dropping too many levels is like playing the tutorial for a video game you have already beat. It is just hard to take it very seriously. You can beat it when you try, but it is hard to really care. I have found my self raising like a maniac, because quitting up .50 does not seem like it is worth the effort.
 
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You really played in nl100 ? :D So argue and thinking can only have bad player, not reg or player nl100 sure.. If your opponent does not know the button fold, then we must, more them value betting with our top range, and you can more exploiting bad players....

Maybe you should more play at the microstakes, because I know why you move down limits.. Because you are still far from nl100 and on these limits you will lose only the money, you do not even know basic things in poker, like play vs calling station.
I dont even know what you're talking about...
 
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Dropping too many levels is like playing the tutorial for a video game you have already beat. It is just hard to take it very seriously. You can beat it when you try, but it is hard to really care. I have found my self raising like a maniac, because quitting up .50 does not seem like it is worth the effort.
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Ya always notice the rust factor coming into play, but I think a depositing break will benefit me in life in general.. A little in the money aspect, but simply allow me 2 put a full effort into school and personal relationships.. Plus I dont have many reliable options due to major issues with a Bovada payout and my lack of overall trust for the software on FF and Betonline.. Will prolly give Carbon another run eventually when I find a card to deposit on the site with.. Overall I think the only options I have in America are Bovada and Carbon because of their superior MTTs and SNGS... I have been taking a ton more time lately just reviewing other peoples hands and trying to help them on plays in situations I sometimes get stuck in it.. My poker lingo isnt the best, but I would say my general knowledge of the game is very high... Thanks for the advice and look forward to reading more of your general insights on the game + help on advancing through the downswings..


Put your ego aside. Just deposit more and continue playing, as long as your learning from your mistakes and studying/reading watching videos ... you should be improving?

Doesn't mean you will see improvements overnight. Things are tougher these days than say 8 years ago. Just need patience and even more determination.

Just make sure your decisions are based on what you think is what is best to make YOU a better player. Not what others think sir.

Sometimes playing a lot and losing isn't great for the ego and makes you feel bad, but if you can admit your just not that good and want to learn more of the game. Well play harder and learn new weapons along the way.

Remember also when learning new weapons... What has worked for you overall? What could be making your game downwards?

A couple things you might want to remember when trying to improve.

Focus on best games to play.
Table selection: Find the fish
Learn to identify the regs weaknesses
such as 3bet calling too much. Folding too much. playing too tight, playing too loose.

Arr you get the point. But also make sure your not getting exploited.
Calling too many 3bets (It's okay to drop marginal or small pocket pairs OOP KJ,KQ,AQ tricky hands OOP ) Some of these tricky hands you can turn into your 4bet bluffing range. You'll be surprised how often the very tight players will fold :) and if they call or re-raise u can sneek out ez pz.
playing too loose in the blinds (Use to be a big leak in my game)


Enjoy :) and keep at it bud! ... who cares if you win or lose, just work on improving as a player, cancel the bad things in ur game and hope it comes together. It won't by not playing.
 
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