Medium hands question

Okay, I've got a couple of hands that I've been seeing a lot of lately but they don't fit into my range of playable hands. Can someone please give me some opinions on how to play these cards.

Most of the games I play in (.50+.05 SnG) will have one to two really loose players in them. I don't care if it's early or late in the tourney, I'm just talking generally. How would you play these cards...

-K8s on the button
-22 in the cutoff/ 2 limpers
-77 in middle pos/ 1 limper
-K9o on the BB with one early min raise and folded to me

These are cards that are hard for me to put down, but I'm trying to stick to my range of hands. The only problem is, that if I stick too hard to my range of hands I'm running the risk of not catching enough of them to stay at the table. Also, I usually try to play turbo games.

Depending on the circumstances at the table, I'd at least call with the hands that you listed. Or, to play a little more aggressive, you could reraise with the K9o in the BB. With the 77 in middle position, you should put in a standard raise and try to isolate the limper.

Ranger touched on it, your question is a little to vague, early or late makes a difference as does reads and your previous plays. Specific situations are important.

I'm not saying in HU at the end. I'm just wanting generally. Everyone's still in, full table, maybe one or two gone. Blinds not over 150.

I agree with ranger. With K8o it depends on the blinds and will they defend. With K8o vs most 50c it is a profitable move to raise, even under the standard 3x bb. You have position and more than likely ur be at 60/40 dog at worst if called. If i have a HUD up and blinds have vpip's of under 20% then i'll raise any two on the button. So K8o is more than good enough. Even if i only have 20hands on them, it gives me a good enough indication of how their playing.

77 i'd probably limp, if i've got a big stack, i might raise to isolate. I think with these marginal hands, there is no correct way. The most important thing is how the table is playing and how to play the hands vs specific players and the table.

I play these $1 below SNG's. And as at these levels they're really violate with loose, maniac's. I just nit it up, until i'm at the shoving end of it. Basically super tight and making squeeze plays in the right spots. I'm not usually get involved in marginal situations.

dg1267 said:

-K8s on the button
-22 in the cutoff/ 2 limpers
-77 in middle pos/ 1 limper
-K9o on the BB with one early min raise and folded to me

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Full table Low blinds
K8 fold even on the button what are you hopingto flop?
22 call if the table is passive possible raise
77 same a 22's
K9 check fold a missed flop lead a K check fold a 9 on the flop.

Full Table high blinds
K8 raise to steal
22 raise to steal
77 raist to steal
K9 raise to steal

all of which still depends on the reads on the players in the hands what the stack sizes are when the hand occurs and what previous actions have happened in the last 5-10 hands.

tho i suck horribly at tournaments, a general rule is that limping probably works best early in the tournament unless you have some fit or fold players but once the blinds start to rise you should raise any hand you are intending to play. early game it is more about trying to hit a big hand and get paid off and late game it is about stealing blinds.

Thanks for the advice guys, that's what I was needing. I know to toss 72 offsuit anywhere, and don't raise 69 offsuit. I was just wondering what others did with these mediocre cards.

But please, keep the info coming!

I have to agree with steveg1976 he hit it pretty head on, but then again if everyone played the exact same way it wouldn't be as much fun, i think you got to go with your gut alot, watch the other players and try to read them

I've tried that, dex, but my gut sucks at poker. It's much better at billiards.

where double mean, in the cases cited, I imagine

that the way of playing is tight, as it allows you

see the flop without running many risks ....

But it is clear that we must take into account his opponents

which the profile of his opponents? tight, aggressive,

Super aggressive? In the case of playing against players

super aggressive many hands you should reconsider and run.

No offense, but I'm looking for members suggestions that either are...

1. Common members that I know of (i.e. ChuckTs, AloeVera, Buckster, etc....

2. Anyone that can put together words to form a sentence.

I'm really not looking for spammers here

dg1267 said:

No offense, but I'm looking for members suggestions that either are...

1. Common members that I know of (i.e. ChuckTs, AloeVera, Buckster, etc....

2. Anyone that can put together words to form a sentence.

I'm really not looking for spammers here

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What a terrible attitude. Were only trying to help and you throw it in our face. I have just watched 3 vids on stoxpoker by colin moshman and was going to run over some points he made on those types of hands for SNG's. But nm. Why would i waste of time on somebody who is so selfish and ungrateful.

I'd appreciate anybody posting on my threads, even if i don't agree with them. It is only throwing out ideas and giving you things to consider. Come on, your playing 50cent SNG's!!! not $16 ones.

Lot's of assumptions, but here's my general tactic:
-K8s on the button = Raise to steal blinds. Most likely fold to reraise, possible c-bet, depending on caller(s) and flop.
-22 in the cutoff/ 2 limpers = Limp / set-mine
-77 in middle pos/ 1 limper = Limp / set-mine
-K9o on the BB with one early min raise and folded to me = At these low stakes, lots of donks will min-raise with their monsters. I'll see a flop here, but I'm proceeding with caution, unless I flop big. (2-pair+)

I always try to see the flop as cheaply as possible with small pair anytime except in early position.

To me playing K9 out of the blinds against a raise is pretty iffy. Its not in the top three groups, so it shouldn't be played out of the blinds against a raise.

If you feel like taking a chance it would depend on the betting patterns/history of the bettor. By common logic an early raiser should have a hand since everyone is still to act but the min raise might mean they are trying to see a flop cheap also. You're out of position so fold or at the most call and hope you hit the flop big.

Just my .02 and I'm seldom right.

Michelle5000, I did come off a little pissy in that post and I'm sorry. But, if I can't understand the post, it really isn't worth much to me. That's where I was headed with that. The post above mine has parts that I could understand, but the rest was far off. But I am sorry for the way I came off in that post.

My "gut feeling" is that you are spamming in my thread!

-early on k8s on the button is a fold, late its an auto-raise.
-22 you limp behind depending on stack sizes, small stacks, fold, deeper stacks, call.
-77, is same as 22.
-k8o you fold at any point in tournament after an early mini-raise.