This is a discussion on math within the online poker forums, in the Learning Poker section; i suk at maths. unbelievably badly. lyk really bad. or else im making a deal of things idk were do i start? 


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google pokerstove and download it (freeware)....works out the odds of any hand/range.
You need to get a grasp on probablilities in the future, though. 
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poker math is statistics and probability and that, my friend is not calculus or infinite math, it's quite simple and you can learn it very easily. It's never to late to start, just take a high school book and start practicing. i think they're still studying that. All those programs might be good and might not but you need to learn to use your head 2...

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So if I hold Js10s and I am playing 6 handed 5nl. I am UTG and choose to raise to 4xBB = 0.16 total. everyone folds to the button who calls and the SB and BB fold. The flop is Kd Qs 2c I lead out for 3/4 the pot (.12) and my enemy shoves all in. My enemy has $4 behind and I have $3. wat wud u do? just to the last guy who posted 
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You're 33:66 behind against an opponent who holds either Kx or Qx. You can work it out by hand or remember the odds from you last pokerstove visit . 
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On the flop we multiply those outs by 4 (and add 1% to be closer). So you are 33% to hit one of those outs by the river. So you win about 1 out of 3 times. 1 win for every 2 losses. Now we compare what it costs to call with how much there is to win in the pot: If the current pot is twice as big as what you have to put in, you are about even. (Your call is 33% of the current pot size) If the current pot is more than 2x what you need to put in to call, you are making a call with a positive longterm earning. (Your call is more than 33% of the current pot size) If the current pot is less than 2x what you need to put in to call, you are making a call with a negative longterm earning. (Your call is less than 33% of the current pot size)  Likewise, let's say you have Js10s on a Ks Qs 2c flop. Now you have 9 spades, 3 nonspade Aces, and 3 nonspade 9's for a total of 15 outs. 15 X 4 = 60 You are close to 60% to win, even though you don't even have a pair. Ship it! 
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1. Fold preflop, this is not agood hand to play UTG. 2. Fold.... I dont care how bad your maths is, the pot is about $3.5 and its going to cost about $2.75 to call You are not getting sufficent odds to call with only an 8 out draw. 
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Phil Gordon's Little Green Book has some easy methods for calculating odds in the later chapters. Just a suggestion. The whole book is a fairly easy read, but the math part really breaks it down, although it may take a couple of reads to get that part.

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One minor addition, when calculating your % chance of winning & when using the rule of 4 & 2, if you have more than 9outs you need to subtract the difference from your outcome (ie. with 15outs, (4 x 15)  (15  9) = 60  6 = 54% My suggestion as to 'where do I start'? I found that a good place to start was Grade1, followed by 2 & so on. For a good place to start with basic poker math, check out Phil Gordon's Little Green Book   it is wellwritten/interesting. Phil conveys this stuff to the reader in very easy to understand terms. On the opposite approach... if you want to be further confused, read Sklansky's stuff. 
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Unkownn, when you get a handle on counting your "outs"; there is a fantastic chart on probabality of making any "Outs" multiple up to 21 on the River, Turn and Both (three columns). I found it on linked on "fourdogs" post in the thread "what two books" here in "learning poker" section. It is "fourdogs" bottom link called "Hold'em Outs Chart". Pure Gold for me, you might want to look at it too. I copied it off, awesome info.

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