Originally Posted by Piranha 131
I think I am going to like this forum. I ask a question and get all these great replies. Thanks again for the help.
Seriously don't believe everything people say.
The following is better, keep in mind that I'm clueless about tournaments but even that bit is a better guide than above.
I'm counting small pocket pairs as 66 or lower.
6max it's an open raise from any position on any table, and if it's raised before you then it's basically a choice of set mining or 3betting. Set mining depends on effective stack size and how leaky your opponent is post-flop but typically I'd go for the 3bet because it will usually show a bigger profit based on fold equity (including the opportunity to cbet with a very strong range).
Full ring, pretty much the same thing but fold in the first 1-3 positions on most tables.
In the early stages you can set mine, although you still shouldn't ever limp.
Once the blinds start raising a bit though they should be folded quite often (not certain about that bit), although they should almost always be an open raise from LP but 3bet or fold quite often if someone else has already entered the pot (you don't have odds to set mine).
Once you've got say <12bb all pp's are pretty much always an open shove and usually a fold to any action. With obvious exceptions based on payout structure.
Yeah, my tourney advice sucks, I'm hoping someone smarter posts and says where it's wrong.
Anyway, my main advice is don't believe anything anyone says about anything (poker related or not) and question it yourself.
Oh and random stuff that's wrong:
limping or getting in cheaply is the best way.
i've read depending on your pair you wouldn't exceed the value of your pair x's the bb, so for your 6's you wouldn't exceed 6 xbb that is for calling a bet. but i prefer to be in control with small PP or i mostly fold.
It doesn't make any difference how many bb's go in pre-flop, what matters is the stack size relative to the pre-flop bets. You should also not alter your own betsizes based on your hand (ok, that last bit isn't entirely true but short of getting into freakishly complicated explanations that I don't fully understand, it's near enough).
You have a 1 in 7.5 chance of making your set, so you need to make sure your opponent has at least 7.5 times the bet (so 750 if its 100 to call) to make it worth calling. Implied odds.
This assumes you're going to win their entire stack every time you hit. You wont. Not even close.
You need the effective stack to be much deeper than this.