This is a discussion on Lose Cash Game - Win Tourny within the online poker forums, in the Learning Poker section; Why is it that I can accumulate a little cash in tournaments especially freerolls, but then I loose it all in the cash games?
I, too, started his career in poker freerolls through. I saved up money in freerolls and then started playing tournaments. I always follow strictly for their own account. And I'm not playing tournaments, if I do not have 100 buy-in to this tournament.
Cash games are typically played with deeper stacks, so they require more postflop skills than tournaments. For instance you need to be able to sometimes fold very strong hands, if the action gets to heavy. Also its obviously not difficult to win in freerolls. Everyone win in freerolls, but some players win more than others.
Cash games are a whole new world from tournament poker. I recommend you to stick to tourneys if you're good at them. You obviously find cash games attractive, from the idea that you can leave anytime with loads of cash(if you run good), but you can also lose a whole lot(even your entire bankroll) on a bad day, with lots of bad beats, and poor bankroll management.
It prolly breaks to the rake. In tournaments there is no rake every hand. So you can play tight. You have to play a little looser with cash games because of the ten percent rake. You would prolly do well if rake games just had a monthly membership instead of every hand. They havent done that yet.
One thing I can suggest is to seek a site that allows you the lowest possible buy in to sit at the table. Example: UltimateBet used to have a buy in as low at 5BB. At the micro .01/.02 you could buy in for a mere 10 cents. If you are good at tournaments then the best part of your game happens preflop or on the flop. Buying in for a very low minimum helps take the guess work out of the turn and river- probably the weaker part of your game- because you are all in with your microstack and a big hand preflop. Now you are in very familiar territory! Get the money in good as you can. Many wins you will double or triple up as a few of the bots auto call your .10 all in with ATC. When you hit, go to a new table and buy in for .10 cents. Do this on as many tables as you can manage. I made my 1st bankroll from .87 cents using this straight forward method, but it did take awhile.
Cash game play is much different than tournaments. In MTTs increasing blinds force people to play hands that are not very good while in cash games everybody can wait for good hands and play. Also in MTT you risk only your buyin while in cash game it is much easier to loose more money if you get tilted. If you are good at MTT then play primarily MTTs.
its usually the opposite for me cash games are usually pure profit for me and mtts i am taking shots. bankroll management is key should have 50-100 buy ins at least at the level you play at for cash games.
People are caring about deffence in tournaments more depends of their chips. Cause if they lose their chips the tournament is finishing for them. Their effort will go to trash. Also going to all in more. Especially on preflop. But in the cash game you have to respect the turn and river. It's Nathan "Blackrain79" Williams' advice on his blog and his advices helped me really so much to solve my problems on cash game while i'm winning tournaments.
Why is it that I can accumulate a little cash in tournaments especially freerolls, but then I loose it all in the cash games?
I play even tighter and managed to loose my entire bankroll in cash games?
How do you avoid that mistake?
First, have you played enough to have a significant sample size? If we're not talking about hundreds of tourneys and tens of thousands of cash hands your sample sizes are too small.
Second, freerolls are the softest play.
Third tourneys and cash are different mindsets and require different skills. For cash, preflop is a lot simpler because effective stacks (almost) always deep. But you win cash tables with postflop skills. For tournaments postflop skills help you grow your stack early on when everyone is deep. But you win tournaments with preflop skills at the end stage.
yeah, i can feel your sentiments, because it happens to me everytime.
I win some cash in tournaments, then i try my skills in cash games.
Some times i win more early on but the greed in me says i can still win more, before i know it i have lost everything.
tough life.... thats poker.