LIMP!! Interested in your opinion.

TiReX · Nov 25, 2016

Hi all.My question to the players which are constantly open limp.(Not including those moments when limpet monsters).
Please tell me what do you expect when you open any two cards Utg limp with(and not only)? What is this tactic?
Sometimes there are tables with players that have VPIP 50+ PFR -5.
You're afraid to make a raise?Why then do coldcall with garbage hands?
I'm sure the players(of this type) will read this topic.Please answer.
And of course I would like to know the opinion of others.
Good luck at the poker tables
:icon_bigs
P.S.
Sorry if something is not clear(just write,I will correct).

Sidetracked · Nov 28, 2016

I think open limping is bad poker.

At full ring limit holdem, maybe OK. But in NL, definitely not.

CriesuaID · Nov 28, 2016

I think open limping is bad poker. [2]

braveslice · Nov 29, 2016

This is how it is taught for me, and also my current view:

Pre player is thinking that my hand is too bad to raise, so they limp
If they get raised, they think it’s only that little more maybe I can hit, so they can’t fold
Some do fold, but not many, because they think they are only raised by better

Also in equation, in micros they are raised mostly a) either by tags bluffing most of their stack vs him b) Agros who like to raise because it’s fun and limper might well have better hand here so result wise noticing that limping is bad takes too much for them to notice.

Padlington · Nov 29, 2016

not too keen on opening limp early with weak hand allows later seats to apply pressure, there again limping with a strong hand always invites trouble could be outdrawn by any rubbish limping late which is different matter altogether

StArDemonn · Nov 29, 2016

call the limper with decent hands and 3Bet very very big with premium hands

UrsinusMaximus · Nov 29, 2016

Hmm I lost a hand today, when villain limped with AQo UTG
I raised on the button with ATs they then proceeded to call me down to the river... its really hard to tell where a weak passive player is in a hand as they play their made hands the same as their draws i.e. cold calling everything.
Most of the time can value bet the all the way, but occasionally like today they will actually have a better hand...

ubo · Nov 29, 2016

Sometimes limping can be very + EV.
BUT this is only sometimes.
And many are simply afraid to lose the limp, but usually lose more...

Here just lost the entire stack such Limper...

D3STR0Y3RaJ · Nov 29, 2016

Limp is so bad cuz raise 3 bet fold

Kliedz Zivju · Nov 29, 2016

if i play with limpers i try too bet strong pre flop with good hands to put them from playing trash. if i get called i try a pot bet on the flop if they still calling i just guess they hit some crappy kicker XD usually a two pair haha... 7/2 destroyed me earleir today XD still had to praise the guy hahahaha

kishiru · Nov 29, 2016

Im trying to rise and they are prob bleffing everytime.

TeUnit · Nov 29, 2016

just punish the limpers, if you raise the limpers in position, you can probably soul own them becuase most of the time a 50vpip misses the flop ..so they are used to folding-

if a limper doesnt like to fold on the flop to cbets...just value bet them

thetick33 · Nov 29, 2016

TiReX said:
Hi all.My question to the players which are constantly open limp.(Not including those moments when limpet monsters).
Please tell me what do you expect when you open any two cards Utg limp with(and not only)? What is this tactic?
Sometimes there are tables with players that have VPIP 50+ PFR -5.
You're afraid to make a raise?Why then do coldcall with garbage hands?
I'm sure the players(of this type) will read this topic.Please answer.
And of course I would like to know the opinion of others.
Good luck at the poker tables
:icon_bigs
P.S.
Sorry if something is not clear(just write,I will correct).

i mix play. i think can outplay most players if see a flop so a limp is another way of mixing that play in and confusing a table etc.. especially if your catching cards. its not a great strategy if your not catching you got to know what is going on with your game. very dangerous if your catching 2 pair junk hands

not so great if your catching bottom pair constantly. If I have a table that is non aggressive I use limping more. is that simple. I hope am hitting flops if not hitting flops I got to adjust and since is a non aggressive table I would start raising bets with position etc..

so would adjust to what was happening at that time.

Two6JJ · Nov 29, 2016

For the most part it is newer players that use this strategy. Or they just have not had their AA get cracked enough by going into a pot 6 ways with them.

MsNutHand · Nov 29, 2016

Since I started playing poker I always read and heard that limpers must be punished with raises and/or 3-bets even light 3-bets as I limper is a player that do not trust much informações his own hand and just want to see a flop spending few chips and prepared to fold to any raise!
However if the action completes with just limpers and YouTube are in the SB or BB with a marginal hand YouTube can also limp or call and play carefully pos-flop!

Ahoy · Nov 29, 2016

If the blinds are low, you just want to get lucky imho. I limp sometimes just tochceck the flop basically for free. Otherwise I raise hard if holding a good hand UTG

shanest · Nov 29, 2016

open limping is a bad and exploitable strategy. No top level players do it.

paulsmall007 · Nov 29, 2016

I agree punish the limping, three bet fold is normally what will happen

B1BOMBER · Nov 29, 2016

Any 2 cards can win so when the blinds are small I try to call any time I can get in for the blind. If I stay with a 2 4, then the flop comes 4 4 2 looks good. If not I can fold without loosing too many chips. If I get AA or KK or such I make a big raise so that 2 4 doesn't beat me.

Morly4 · Nov 30, 2016

Sometimes I raise all in with AA

ubo · Dec 2, 2016

thetick33 said:
i mix play. i think can outplay most players if see a flop so a limp is another way of mixing that play in and confusing a table etc.. especially if your catching cards. its not a great strategy if your not catching you got to know what is going on with your game. very dangerous if your catching 2 pair junk hands not so great if your catching bottom pair constantly. If I have a table that is non aggressive I use limping more. is that simple. I hope am hitting flops if not hitting flops I got to adjust and since is a non aggressive table I would start raising bets with position etc..

so would adjust to what was happening at that time.

So, too, is mixed. Sometimes you can not lipm to do.
But it all depends on the position.
If lips always, it konencho, not ice

Daniljev · Dec 2, 2016

I think open limping is bad poker.

shomy21 · Dec 2, 2016

I like limpers, beacuse we have a chance to see the free flop when we are on big blind.

marcumx · Dec 2, 2016

i disagree that limping is bad play but i welcome this opinion which is why i'll open limp with KK or AA and then laugh when i rake in the pot.

biops · Dec 2, 2016

TiReX said:
Hi all.My question to the players which are constantly open limp.(Not including those moments when limpet monsters).
Please tell me what do you expect when you open any two cards Utg limp with(and not only)? What is this tactic?
Sometimes there are tables with players that have VPIP 50+ PFR -5.
You're afraid to make a raise?Why then do coldcall with garbage hands?
I'm sure the players(of this type) will read this topic.Please answer.
And of course I would like to know the opinion of others.
Good luck at the poker tables
:icon_bigs
P.S.
Sorry if something is not clear(just write,I will correct).

Some players are just bad, and they want to see as many flops as possible, hoping to hit their speculatives hands. I dont like to enter on pot limping, even more on hj, utg, mp... it depends of my pockets and what i´ve observed from my opp... but limping every hand to me it´s a strong sign of a bad poker player.

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