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I have a really basic question. Is it true in a full ring game, the fish are the ones who open-limp from early position and fold to a raise? I always thought with small pocket pairs, the right play is limp, and only call a raise if you are getting the right odds.

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It depends, but playing out of position with crap hands is certainly part of any fish arsenal.
 
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You should rarely if ever open limp. You want to be coming in for a raise with your pocket pairs. Which ones you open and in which positions is up to you and how comfortable you are playing post flop. I usually fold the baby pairs early 22-66 raise the rest. It's ok to limp behind with the baby pairs in postion with a bunch of limpers in front but with only 1 limper I'm raising it up.
 
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So is a real fish like strategy to limp from early position with a small pair and fold to a raise? I only fold to a raise when heads up because i do not feel like im getting the right odds. I honestly think i have been playing them wrong (im new to the game).
 
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i think early stage limping with small pocket pairs is ok, but late stage with antes and stuff you should rase 77+ and fold the rest...Unless you are Big blind, you could limp with small pocket pair if someone rase and try your luck hitting trips...
 
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i would personally never limp early with a small pocket pair , simply cause u can't stand a raise to call your hand is so weak.. i just think its a losing play to do
 
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the fish are the ones who open-limp from early position and fold to a raise?

One of the things I have learned here is to never limp. So I over raise then fold from early position. I am advancing from fish to donk. :)
 
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So is a real fish like strategy to limp from early position with a small pair and fold to a raise? I only fold to a raise when heads up because i do not feel like im getting the right odds. I honestly think i have been playing them wrong (im new to the game).

Fish have no strategy.......
 
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i think early stage limping with small pocket pairs is ok, but late stage with antes and stuff you should rase 77+ and fold the rest...Unless you are Big blind, you could limp with small pocket pair if someone rase and try your luck hitting trips...

There is no "early stage / late stage" in a full ring cash game, like the OP is asking.



To respond to the original question: It depends on your opponents and the raise size, if you're worried about "getting the right odds". In theory, if you limp a small pocket pair and get raised 3 or 4 times, and, both you and your opponent have decent stack sizes (in theory, at least 12 times the size of the raise), and, you think he will stack off if he has an overpair or top pair those times that you flop a set, then you might be playing correctly. These odds improve somewhat if others call the raise as well because your implied odds can improve.


If, on the other hand, your opponent is a decent aggressive player and is attacking you for open limping from early position and won't stack off with just top pair when you flop a set, or you or he have less that 12x the raise size, or, if your most of your opponents at the table are weak-tight and would fold preflop if you had raised your small pair or fold to a continuation bet on a dry flop, then you're not playing correctly by limping from early, because you should have raised in the latter situation and folded in the former.


It's just not that simple. :rolleyes:
 
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