This is a discussion on Limp ? within the online poker forums, in the Learning Poker section; Good morning guys ! I'm seeing a lot of players playing limping. I would like to know your opinions. Is it okay to play that
Good morning guys ! I'm seeing a lot of players playing limping. I would like to know your opinions. Is it okay to play that way at the beginning of tournaments with hands of values or is this a new strategy in poker, because we know that poker is always evolving every day.
Limping during the first few levels of a tournament is fine in my opinion. The blinds are very small and there's probably no antes yet, so we're really not concerned about stealing the preflop pot just yet. I think its a perfectly valid strategy to play a very wide range of hands early in a tournament - what Daniel Negreanu calls "small ball", you don't have to pay much to see a flop and when you do hit the flop hard, you hand will be very disguised and hard to read properly and you might just be able to win a sizeable pot if our opponent can't find a fold with their AA or KK type of hands. But once the antes kick in and the preflop pots get larger, that's my cue to stop limping in with all the other donks, and to start getting more aggressive against them.
Of course, this is an opportunity to hide the strength of the hand. But this allows many players to enter the game without paying a lot with very bad hands when the blinds are very small at the beginning of the tournament. I think it is absolutely right when you play very wide at the beginning of the tournament (the blinds allow you to do this) to increase your stack for playing in the tournament further. So I don't think it's right to play the limp of a very strong hand at the beginning of the tournament, it's wrong.
You can also limp with AA if you have a situation where this is the right strategy. For example, you are in position against a player who is raising when you limp. By limping against him, you provoke him to aggression with the worst hand.
Limping occasionally to mix things up is ok but generally it's a losing proposition. Most of the time we don't improve on the flop. That's why aggression is a very important tool in any players kit. Your non-aggression just waves a white flag and invites others to take the betting lead. When the flop comes and you don't hit the board (which happens most of the time) what do you do when another player bets? You're going to do what most limpers do...fold.
people who limp in esp up front or deep are usually of two or three types and all are pretty terribad. Now Im not talking about controlled open limps from a late position players against weak blinds or in short stacked situations where these limps are strategically OK.
but these folks are those who usually:
lfi with hands they should rfi, these are tight players for the most part.
lfi or over limp lots of hands esp in games where there are over limps and 5 way pots. these are your general loose passives
limp weak and those that limp strong, for a reason. which is usually not a very well thought out reason
HUDs are the best way to determine which, coupled with "OBSERVATION".
Mix this information with a good isolation strategy and you will do well as long as you keep your ego in check.
my shark scope reads, "Glaucus atlanticus".
Based on what iv noticed over the years, players doing a lot of different things, limping can only mean one thing in early stage of tournaments, either they have good catching cards like suited connectors or a monster.
I think they are weak players who play sluggishly, almost every hand and show a bad card on showdown, they often fall on my pre-flop bet, I play a lot of cards and watch the flop much more often than usual with a conservative hand, knowing that in most cases they will have a weaker card than you. As for opening weak pocket pairs I don't think you should limp them it's a weak game and it's better to throw them out or open with a raise in the game. Another thing is when a strong player with a pushing fold stack SB in BB plays sluggishly, trying to hide the strength of his hand by having a premium pocket pair AA-KK in the hope of luring the player so that BB puts the worst card in it. or when we have a lot of aggressive players at the table and we have a medium or push fold stack and we have a strong premium card and we are in an early or mid position we make a limp in the hope that our limp will be put or pushed by aggressive players after us then this is not considered a weak game
Good players usually do not limp, they raise when first in the post and may over limp (calling a previous limp bet not the BB) with spec type hands, or lower pocket pairs. Limping premium hands allows other to see cards for cheap and allows your hand to become vulnerable. Why wouldn't you want to get the most money in pre-flop when more than likely you dominate your opponents?