Learn what a "Blocker" is

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Blockers are cards that a player needs to complete his draw, but are in the hands of an opponent.
Example: Safe BB 6J, Secure MP1 K7, Flop turns 854, Both players have an internal straight draw.
The BB needs a seven, and the MP1 needs a 6 to make the sequence 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. So each of the players holds the card the other needs. These are blockers. There are no more than four six and four sevens available to complete the draws, but only three. This reduces the chances of both players completing the sequence.

Think about it.
 
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Life-hack! How to collect more posts? Quote paragraphs from well-known articles! :D

Life-hack 2:
Comment on them and put a smiley. :star:
 
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If it is necessary to post interesting to be part of the club, then I will quote everything I have studied.
 
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If it is necessary to post interesting to be part of the club, then I will quote everything I have studied.
It is against the TOS to quote unattributed information. When you post it, you assert that it is your own material and you have the right to post it here.
 
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I'm giving my best, I'm feeding Learning Poker, for beginning players just like me, to have the opportunity to learn the sport. I'm defining what is Blocker, do you have any problem defining something so important?
 
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You are very defensive about this. All we are saying is that you need to post your own material or quote small parts of other material (explaining where it came from) and then expanding on it with your thoughts or examples.

You don't get credit towards the freeroll club for posting other people's material.
 
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The source of this knowledge, wsbar memory. I do not know where I read, I just know that I have several interesting subjects in my mind. Can I continue posting? Or do you think there is no one able to give examples and quote from that level?
 
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Can you give an example of when blockers would change your action in a hand?
 
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Are you an administrator of Cardschat? And if I do not want to give this example, am I in my duty? Because I'm here to add with interesting information. This is my goal.
 
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So. You want to create a thread about blockers, but you can not provide any example of how to use this information or what this information means at the table?
 
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Do you want me to continue on this subject? I can do that, it will be my pleasure.
 
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Yes. I would love it.

When do blockers play an important role in decision making?

When would holding a blocker change your actions, when would it not change anything? What would those changes be?

Do your opponent's stats impact how much of a role blockers play?

Are blockers more or less important in different forms of poker?

Let's answer as many of those as we can.
 
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And when do I start posting on Pot odds and how do I use it?
 
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I would like to ask the help of the university students of poker, I am here to learn and share information, you seem to be annoyed by my publication.
Blocker is a complex subject, I posted what I understand on the subject in a reduced form. I would like the help of others more experienced to feed this theme.
 
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That would be a different thread, unless your pot odds specifically change based on holding blockers.

Our brain can focus on one thing at a time, can I answer you later? I'm throwing a hand.
 

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I would like to ask the help of the university students of poker, I am here to learn and share information, you seem to be annoyed by my publication.
Blocker is a complex subject, I posted what I understand on the subject in a reduced form. I would like the help of others more experienced to feed this theme.
If you don't know much, let's build on it. Can you answer any of the questions I posted?
 
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Help me feed this subject, enrich my knowledge, let's be friends and exchange information. Help me and I'll help you. I'm studying my friend and I want to learn.
 
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OK, can I modify your original definitions of blockers?

"A blocker is a card your opponent needs to have a strong hand in the given situation that you happen to have in your hand."

When we 3-bet A6s preflop from the BB against a button open, we are going to be more successful than if we used 76s, because the Ace in our hand is a blocker against many of the strong hands the button could hold. We dramatically reduce the combos of AA and AK he could be holding. With 76s, we don't have any cards the button needs to have a strong hand, so our 3-bet is more likely to run into a real hand.

When we have a pair of 9s on a T76 flop, our opponent is very unlikely to hold the nuts (98) because we have most of the combos blocked. We can more reliably represent the nuts ourselves, although it is best to not try such things at the micro limits (the players aren't thinking deep enough to fold AT or JJ).

Omaha has a lot of blocker situations. Like when you hold the Ace of a suit that had three on the board. If the board is unpaired (and a straight flush isn't possible), you know that your opponent can't hold the nuts. You can put a lot of pressure on an opponent who can't possibly have the nuts.

Blockers don't [usually] impact your pot odds, unless you block yourself (which happens in Omaha sometimes).

Having blockers makes aggressive plays more likely to succeed. If you have no blockers, you might be less inclined to try a bluff or to aggressively take the pot.
 
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OK, can I modify your original definitions of blockers?

"A blocker is a card your opponent needs to have a strong hand in the given situation that you happen to have in your hand."

When we 3-bet A6s preflop from the BB against a button open, we are going to be more successful than if we used 76s, because the Ace in our hand is a blocker against many of the strong hands the button could hold. We dramatically reduce the combos of AA and AK he could be holding. With 76s, we don't have any cards the button needs to have a strong hand, so our 3-bet is more likely to run into a real hand.

When we have a pair of 9s on a T76 flop, our opponent is very unlikely to hold the nuts (98) because we have most of the combos blocked. We can more reliably represent the nuts ourselves, although it is best to not try such things at the micro limits (the players aren't thinking deep enough to fold AT or JJ).

Omaha has a lot of blocker situations. Like when you hold the Ace of a suit that had three on the board. If the board is unpaired (and a straight flush isn't possible), you know that your opponent can't hold the nuts. You can put a lot of pressure on an opponent who can't possibly have the nuts.

Blockers don't [usually] impact your pot odds, unless you block yourself (which happens in Omaha sometimes).

Having blockers makes aggressive plays more likely to succeed. If you have no blockers, you might be less inclined to try a bluff or to aggressively take the pot.



It is important to remember that I am a beginner, I want to learn, I am here to learn, what you can do to help me, feeding my posts complementing, I will be very grateful.
Another example I can cite is a Blocker Flush drown, postflop, Suppose BB is holding:kd4::kh4:, MP2 holds :4h4::5h4:, the Board turns :8h4::9h4::js4:. We're holding a blocking card pro MP2 to complete your Flush. MP2 is Backdoor Straight, but this is another matter where, MP2 is needing two cards to complete Straight.
 
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wsbar, thats right,👏 i agree👌
 
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It is important to remember that I am a beginner, I want to learn, I am here to learn, what you can do to help me, feeding my posts complementing, I will be very grateful.
Another example I can cite is a Blocker Flush drown, postflop, Suppose BB is holding:kd4::kh4:, MP2 holds :4h4::5h4:, the Board turns :8h4::9h4::js4:. We're holding a blocking card pro MP2 to complete your Flush. MP2 is Backdoor Straight, but this is another matter where, MP2 is needing two cards to complete Straight.
Normally, we assume we don't know what an opponent has. We consider their range of possible hands.

In this case, having the Kh is very good for us. We know it is harder for them to hit a flush, but that is only part of it. We block many of their high flushes. In this case, we know it is very unlikely an opponent has a strong flush draw, and we make it harder for their strong flush draws to hit. This means, if an opponent calls us, they are more likely to have top pair than they are to have a flush draw.
 
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