K10s good or bad?

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Hi everyone. NLHE 6 Max ZOOM cash game on pokerstars.
I was just wondering what your thoughts are about K10s and how to play it or if I should be playing it at all.
I find that I don't win very often with this hand.
 
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Hi everyone. NLHE 6 Max ZOOM cash game on PokerStars.
I was just wondering what your thoughts are about K10s and how to play it or if I should be playing it at all.
I find that I don't win very often with this hand.

Honestly - Just the form of your question makes it obvious you really don't know what you're doing. Any hand has a relative and dynamic value. What you're asking totally depends on position, table image, table dynamics, how often you get squeezed, how often the table 3bets, etc.

Simply asking "Is xx a good hand" is an impossible question to answer on it's own. I don't know what software you use but go and see how KTs plays heads up, mw, against different ranges, etc.
 
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I mean 6 Max table in late position. I'm not sure if I should be playing it in early or middle position.
When the K or 10 flops I lose to hands like AK, KQ, KJ and A10 sometimes. Even when I flop a 2 pair I have to watch for straights.
So I usually try to play it as a suited connector like J10s, Q10s and QJs but it doesn't seem to hit the flop as well unless the flop is QJ or gives me a flush draw.
For some reason I win more often with the other hands. Is it just bad luck or am I not playing it right?
 
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It's fine to open with. It can get you in a lot of trouble calling raises though.
 
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So it is good to open with but bad for calling raises with?
What positions should I open with K10s, UTG, MP or LP?
 
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I agree with those who thinking that K10s is good to open in late position and see the flop. Sometime its good to call three bet vs respective player with wide 3-bet stats. K10s very good playing flop, so its good hand to play with position and some players.
 
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By my own experience with KT, they are very bad cards. You hope that you will get straight or something, but usually there are small cards on the table. That is my experience and I don't like to play KT.
 
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KT is good but there a way to play it position would also determined if i would play it also
 
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If you get in a hand with: K10s you need very favorable community cards. In a zoom style I do not think it's a good choice, because most of the time you'll find an AX.
 
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The card is rather weak. I rarely play it. It's better to throw it away if you raise. When the blades are large, the more they need to be thrown away. But some, I saw, play with it.
 
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Have some preflop opening ranges
In a zoom game I don't think it has much value since many players will try to get good hands by quick folding.
 
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Depends on where you are playing it from and the action on the table. It can be a great hand in the BB but not so good facing an early position raise.
 
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As for me, this is a very bad hand
 
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KT suited is a pretty good hand. It's not Aces or Kings, but if you don't go crazy with the hand it has a lot of good draws post flop and you can take pots with fold equity too.

Like others have said above though. You have to be careful playing it vs raises and 3 bets. Especially out of position. Dominated by hands like KJ, KQ, AT, TT, KK, and AA etc.
 
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It's quite often (always?) in UTG open range, insta fold to 3bet any position or in 4bet bluff range. In position sometimes a call. Imo.
 
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I wonder if you can call KTs from BB vs wide BU or CO open? I guess you can, I'm quite sure I do that, but no stats now. Actually I call UTG too sometimes, but that has to be leak ?!?
 
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Kts is the type of hand i will open late and in higher stakes may 4bet bluff oop.

Id suggest openening late and practice 3bet stealing with and see how it goes.

These type of hands usually win you small pots and can lose big pots.

Ofc you win bigger pots against fish though
 
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I mean 6 Max table in late position. I'm not sure if I should be playing it in early or middle position.
When the K or 10 flops I lose to hands like AK, KQ, KJ and A10 sometimes. Even when I flop a 2 pair I have to watch for straights.
So I usually try to play it as a suited connector like J10s, Q10s and QJs but it doesn't seem to hit the flop as well unless the flop is QJ or gives me a flush draw.
For some reason I win more often with the other hands. Is it just bad luck or am I not playing it right?

Here's my two cents.
You're late position on 6 handed table. Which means you're the button.

If the pot is unraised I'd say you do a standard raise (3bb + 1bb/limp), and see what the flop brings. Some people will probably fold.
If the pot is raised, you're in position, so there's a motive to call. Now let's see how high the raise is, and how big your stack is. Depending on whether you can afford it, I'd argue you can call here.
If there is a reraise, or a really high raise you can't afford to call, just fold.


See what the flop brings, and since you're in position, you'll probably know what to do.
 
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Is not a premium hand to raise a bet according to your position you can increase a little or even big blind but I would not recommend going all in or a huge bet
 
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K9 is better for me than K10,because the first hand brought me 320USD.
 
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KT has its ways of being played, it is difficult to say if it is a good hand or not so without any evaluation of the situation. But it's okay to open KT if there is not a raise before.
 
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K10 is medium card) K without kicker is not good.
 
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For me, the K10 card is bad. Although if this is a late position, and there is 1 player in the pot, then you can try to see the flop inexpensively! But generally K10 in my opinion is not a promising map. Well, maybe when playing one on one, you can try to play.
 
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