Jurn8 50NL Video

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My setup has changed abit and I am stacking in this one which is how I usually play but I would like some feedback on not only my play but the way the video is recorded, sound and if stacking was a bad idea for the movie.

I talk some crap in the vid lol

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I watched like 15mins of it. Nothing really interesting but:

You call too much with pps. Calling a 4x raising with 66 in the BB then folding on a pretty safe flop is horribly -EV. Stealing ranges are way too wide for you to be set mining oop and you have to be able to play back/call down in appropriate situations in order to make it profitable.
Flatted 22 against a <1/2 stack...there is no way you should be set mining vs somebody this short.
Hit your set in the 4 way pot - just flat here instead of raising. You still have 2 to act behind, the board was (iirc) quite dry so your hand has very few bad turns. Just way too strong a line to take and shuts down way too much of villain's range that you have dominated.
Can't remember anything else - it seems you are way too tight in LP tho. There were steal opportunities where you folded okish hands to nits in the blinds. YOu can steal with almost atc vs nl50 nits. Also, i'd work on isoing more (like 77 in BB is an easy iso, i'd even iso 86s vs lots of villains which i think was in another hand).

Folded to you on the button with K4 and the blinds are both tightish players, i probably raise there.
Folded to you in the SB with J2, again villain is tightish might consider stealing there.

6.15 MP 17/5 and SB 13/6 limp and u have 77 in the BB, i raise here.
Villains ranges are a bunch of hands the wiff most flops and u should be able to take it down prf or with a c-bet most of the times.

7.12. folded to you in the SB you have a garbage hand but BB is a 12/9, might consider stealing.

9.30. You hit a set in a 4way pot on a AJ7 rainbow board and u say u have to raise. I disagree and think its a perfect spot to flat, what hands have alot of outs against u? You really worried that KQ,89,QT are gonna hit a gut shot or AJ is gonna fill up? Your also repping such a strong range if u raise here that villains might fold AQ type hands we could get it in against on the turn.

13.26. You flat 22 IP against a half stack. Not sure if i like it since where not geting good odds. And if your gonna call u have to make moves on alot of flops u dont hit a set, obvs the board that hit was pretty bad thou(TKQ or something).

13.56. Your in BB with A3o 21/7 button limps, i probably 50/50 checking and raising.

Will finish watching tomorow.
Looked like mostly standard stuff but one thing i noticed is that alot of times when it was folded to u in LP you just instafolded and didnt even check villains stats, think u might be missing out on some steal spots.

Table layout is unbearable to watch, imo. I couldn't follow anything that was going on. Next time I'd suggest tiling 4-6 tables so it's easier to follow the action. Just my opinion.

dsvw56 said:

Table layout is unbearable to watch, imo. I couldn't follow anything that was going on. Next time I'd suggest tiling 4-6 tables so it's easier to follow the action. Just my opinion.

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Agree with this. Its alot easier to watch and follow the action if u tile.

feitr said:

I watched like 15mins of it. Nothing really interesting but:

You call too much with pps. Calling a 4x raising with 66 in the BB then folding on a pretty safe flop is horribly -EV. Stealing ranges are way too wide for you to be set mining oop and you have to be able to play back/call down in appropriate situations in order to make it profitable.
Flatted 22 against a <1/2 stack...there is no way you should be set mining vs somebody this short.
Hit your set in the 4 way pot - just flat here instead of raising. You still have 2 to act behind, the board was (iirc) quite dry so your hand has very few bad turns. Just way too strong a line to take and shuts down way too much of villain's range that you have dominated.
Can't remember anything else - it seems you are way too tight in LP tho. There were steal opportunities where you folded okish hands to nits in the blinds. YOu can steal with almost atc vs nl50 nits. Also, i'd work on isoing more (like 77 in BB is an easy iso, i'd even iso 86s vs lots of villains which i think was in another hand).

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so you think a 3bet here from BB is a better play right ?

If villain folds alot to 3Bs then sure, but otherwise i'd just fold small pps in the blinds.

really?
Why is it bad to set mine from the blinds your getting a better price to call anyway though?

Jurn8 said:

really?
Why is it bad to set mine from the blinds your getting a better price to call anyway though?

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well your out of position and it can be hard to extract enough value to make set mining profitable when your oop

Jurn8 said:

really?
Why is it bad to set mine from the blinds your getting a better price to call anyway though?

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If villain min raises then maybe you have an ok price, but in this case it was a 4x open.

Think about it, if villain has something like a 30% steal, he has a wide range and isn't going to hit strong (TPTK/overpair) hands very often at all. Therefore, your implied odds from set mining is not strong. If you c/f everytime you miss, you are just bleeding money. So to counter this, you have to have a strong postflop game where you know which flops to attack (and how to proceed if called) and know where you should be calling down, which can be difficult when you are oop. Again, this depends alot on villain. If villain cbets 100% and just folds to flop c/r, then it is probably profitable to call and c/r most flops, but another villain may be completely the opposite.

so is this a leak would you say feitr?

Its like playing small PPs UTG and them not being profitable because the fact you can be 3bet from late, your OOP etc.

What i'm saying is that you shouldn't over value pps. The ideal conditions for set mining are when you are vs a tight opening range (TAG opens from UTG or nit opens, etc.) because your implied odds are good since villain/s tend to have reverse implied odds hands. A multiway pot also works, as it increases the odds that one or more villains will hit a strong hand that is crushed if you hit a set (and pot odds are better). You also really want to be IP, since it is alot easier to control the size of the pot (and MUCH easier to see a showdown with an unimproved pp/make a play instead of folding every flop). And obviously the deeper you are, the more implied odds you are getting.

So flatting with 66 in the BB vs a 4x (presumably wide range) steal open (and folding on a pretty safe flop for your hand) or flatting with 22 vs a <1/2 stack obviously don't fall under good set mining categories.

What are your vpip/pfr and steal stats? You can steal with a super wide range vs most players at nl50 (stay away from the 40/xs but punish the 12/9s, etc.)

im 14/10 with steal of 32%.

I am working on stealing more and have realised this can be done an awful lot more at 50nl.

dsvw56 said:

Table layout is unbearable to watch, imo. I couldn't follow anything that was going on. Next time I'd suggest tiling 4-6 tables so it's easier to follow the action. Just my opinion.

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I like stacking, but why two stacks instead of one? Also, I had a hard time with the background images. On mine, I have all avatars turned off, a basic blue table, and transparent stats -- also large tables to make it easier to see. I realize not many people like my method, but I sure do! You definitely wouldn't have to worry about timing out, even with many more tables. And do you use Table Ninja or anything like that? It speeds up the betting process or you can change it as you see fit.

Thanks for doing a video. I love watching these things!