Jurn8 - 10NL 4 Tabling FR

OK first up just wana say thanks to ice for his compression video, also to jay for his input and chuckts for his fr video because i learnt abit from his video before i made mine.
Anyway just a few things i would like to know from this video about me and my play apart from obviously analysis and hands where i could have played better certainly the KJ/KQ where i thought i had 2 pair lol but realised it wasnt.

1. how are my pre flop and post flop skills or whatever and how could i improve them.
2. Do i use position correctly and improvements.
3. what hands could i be using differently in positions eg stealing
4. In your opinion do you think im a good enough player to be playing 10NL at present.
5.Points to work on in my game, current leaks etc.
6. What strategies could i benefit alot from using especially post flop. Strategies like squeezing i will have to learn and 3bet sizes etc anymore ?
7. Can anybody pick out any player types from the tables, fishes, rocks or whatever i find it very hard to determine this.

Any points or analysis is great and i thank anybody for taking time to download this.

my HUD stats are vpip, pfr, AF, fold to c bet, Hands

Heres the link to my video

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Downloading now though I won't get to watch/comment until tonight.

I'll download this tonight when I get home , I'm on the road on a slowish connection.

D/loading now, I'll spk to ya later on MSN.

Just watched the vid Jake. It's good stuff m8, but get yourself a microphone coz it's certainly gonna aid us knowing what your thinking.

I'm not sure if you want a detailed critique posting on here, so at this stage I'm not gonna do that we can talk on MSN.

Your game has got some good fundamentals to it, but there is definately some things to work on. Your play is quite tight, but there definately needs to be more aggression in certain spots. I'm sure other's will note that as well. So I'll spk to ya later.

ok jay cheers buddy i will see when your next on msn bud

Sorry Jurn8 forgot about watching the vid last night. I'll watch after work this evening and leave my comments here.

ok cheers WV, no worries mate

Finished the first 22 minutes so far.

1st - get a mic. Very hard to follow along without commentary.

2nd - select only the area of your screen that contains the tables to record. This allows your viewers to see your tables easier.

Here were my notes from what I've watched thus far:

5:36 - Often call from the BB when raised by SB. It's so often a steal attempt and you'll have position.

7:36 - Folded river with 44 to pot sized bet. I actually like betting the river for value, or at least call his river bet. You're ahead often enough here to look him up.

9:00 - called a min raise from UTG shorty. Even from the button it's a fold.

13:30 - Open limped from the SB with 23s. Raise or fold there, don't limp.

16:28 - Raise more with limper in the pot, but I actually prefer a fold with A9os there because you're not on the button and you're not gaureneed position.

16:50 - Don't open limp with KJos from the hijack. Raise it up!

19:00 - Missed button steal attempt with A7os. Raise the limper there.

I'll finish the rest later.

Ok, comments on the next 20 minutes:

22:28 - Bet your trip jacks on the flop here. You have to value bet the river on this hand also. Really missing value there.

25:15 - Completing with 24s in a limped pot is just throwing away 1/2 a bb.

27:15 - I don't like cbetting that flop (6c, 7d, Qd) 1st to act with 2 opponents still to act. Check fold here and think about opening for more on this table from then on.

27:30 - Do you generally open limp with small pairs?

32:20 - I don't like chasing the shorty away with a hand as strong as AQs here. I might flat his steal or possibly min raise to see if he'll commit his stack. You bet more than his stack so he gets scared and folds. Not what we want there.

32:46 - Good fold with your 22 there. Shorty's not giving you the odds you need to set mine and the EP limper could 3bet you out of the pot.

34:43 - Probably better to go ahead and fold AJ to the BBs 3bet.

38:48 - Try flatting that donk bet after your steal attempt. You hit bottom pair so you have some SD value and position. Flat the flop and bet the turn if he checks.

I'll have to get to the last segment later. Without commentary this is really taking time to cover.

Last one:

41:00 - If you're going to play the A8os from the SB, go ahead and raise with it preflop. The limper was a 25/0/0 1/2 stack (in other words bad) he'll likely fold to a decent raise preflop.

41:27 - During your bluff attempt on the above hand you open fold AJ UTG. This isn't a huge mistake or anything but I think you only did this because you were busy worrying if your bluff would be called on the other table. Nice shout out to ChuckTs by the way.

44:17 - I call that river bet from the aggressive shorty with two pair - Ace kicker.

46:54 - With 2 limpers make your button steal raise bigger, at least 5x.

48:37 - Hate the turn bet there. We have TPGK on a scary board. Let's see if we can get to SD cheap.

49:25 - When a solid player 3bets your UTG raise from UTG+1, it's a good bet that your AJs is no good. Just go ahead and fold preflop.

51:35 - KQos is enough to raise there. As to your question about fold, call or raise; Open limping should be kept to a minimum, fold or raise when you open.

Random thoughts:

Don't worry about your bottom line for the session while you're playing. How many times did you check PT at the end there?

Add the Steal stats on your HUD (ATS, FSBS, FBBS).

Turn on Auto-muck. You really have no reason to ever show your hand to the table. Take away the temptation and speed up the game a little.

Fold to those 3bets with your marginal and easily dominated hands.

If I screwed anything up here it may be because I had to sometimes guess at stack sizes because they were just too blurry to make out clearly.

All-in-all though with a little work I think you'll do just fine. Keep getting better and don't worry about making too many advanced plays at NL10. ABC poker and patience is what beats that level.

gl

nice review there WV thanks for your time to go through it i appreciate the better players helping me here at CC you and Jay have been great to me! Im going to get a mic yeh so i can say what im thinking, as far as points to work on. I think i need work on stealing more, marginal 3 bet hands and open limping. Also to maybe steal with hands from Hijack. What you think anything else ?

Yeah in general, you need to play the late positions fairly aggressively (not like maniac style). If it's folded to you in one of these positions, then taking down the blinds makes us a lot of money over the long term. Your 3 most profitable positions should be the btn, c/o, H/J. If you get 1 or 2 limpers in mp and your otb, then you need to look to isolate with some decent holdings, and not just limp like them. Most of the time we want to be playing HU pots in position, b/c that gives us a greater advantage. These are just some of the fundamentals you need to work on initially, upping the aggression a little i/p. I'll spk to you tonight.

Basically what Jagsti said. You're often playing too passively preflop in LP just limping along and then you're giving up too easily postflop to any hint of aggression. Also as I mentioned calling 3bets with your marginal hands and then folding when you miss the flop gets very expensive. Against most opponents when your AJ type hands get 3bet you should just fold preflop.

regarding late position and my play i have some PT3 stats about this and they are horrific i will tell jay them later on msn lol i found all 9 positions this time jay!