JJ early position

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Ok I really hate this hand doesn't really matter my position but early position it always kills me.

how do you people play your JJ say UTG or UTG +1 what is your mind set raise with intention to fold to 3 bets?
 
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Usually I do raise 4bb and depending on the flop look how to play on.
 
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now i typically always raise 2.5 bb's (good or bad hands)if im first into the pot, should i very my opening bets or should i always keep them the same?
 
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I h8 this hand just like QQ, for same reason.
If you get the them, play carefully and aggressive.
If you hit something, it's usually big, if after flop you're not in advance, fold them or you'll be sorry..... :)
 
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I would make a standard 2 - 3 BB raise as if I would most any other hand I am playing from that position , if we are still in the early stages of said game a little bigger raise. If I get called I re-evaluate on the flop.

The trouble comes when you get re-raised pre-fop. In that case it is going to depend on how the table is playing at this point. If the re-raise isn't too big and my stack allows. I most likely call and see a flop and re-evaluate. If I am pushed all in after my raise. My call is going to depend on the player and our chip stacks. I feel as if most good players wouldn't be pushing with AA or KK in this situation unless there stack size demanded it.

If its a freeroll or micro game and I am not already deep into the game .. I also might just shove all in after a re-raise because allot of the times you are going to be up against lower pockets and hands like A suited +. Other times you are going to be dominated but if the game is free or cost little to get in and you invested little to no time. Than I would be willing to take the chance.
 
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A good pair. Сan lose with any cards. Not a great problem.
 
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i would raise 3 or 4 bb, then call a 3 bet of 12-14 bb if i have a good chipstack or shove if im shortstack. i would probably fold a 4 bet unless the player who makes theis bet is a very loose player. shoving all in preflop i think is the best way to play this hand if you have less than 15bb or maybe 20bb.
 
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Thanks for the advice all. Ill give them all a try next time i get the jinx hand
 
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I usually raise with it and if a overcard doesn't come bet more
 
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There is no go to answer, you have to weigh up how the table dynamics are, etc etc. Id generally open, but might limp in behind if theres a few raisers, and may well squeeze in some spots.....

How ever reevaluate on the flop, its just two cards... so play it for what it is..
 
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yes a raise and if no higher cards raise again - now only real players left - AK AQ possible - a reraise will most probably be two pairs or a high pair. A call may also be trips looking for you next time or straight and/or flush draws. Play it by table response at this stage.
OK that means that JJ isn't great at any time especially on high number tables, but at least early you kick the smaller cards out (or should do unless you stike those monster stacks who are playing (and drawing) anything.
 
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hi!
it depends the blinds
if the blinds are small you play it like a middle pair.standard raise and wait for a good flop
if the blinds are big,or you are a short stack you shove
 
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if you watch first day og Global Poker Masters you will see how the"experts" play high early position high pairs. Great to see and their results - and it's not just about money but playing for their country and reputation against other experience players.
Of course when you are playing against inexperienced players who will see anything then its by guess and good luck on most occasions lol
 
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JJ is very difficult to play with.

I had lost many times with it.

I would rather consider it as a small pair.
 
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Yeo very hard play for me too. Sometimes I raise 3x bet before flop, but if someone reraise me I just call. Than on flop if I try with bet ubt if I reaceave big reraise I probably fold or just call until end.
 
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FOr me, you have to remember, KQA comes up your most likely beat, SOOO
DONT PUSH, opponent bets big, let it go!!!!
 
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i love all the responses they cover just about every situation i have encountered. Im just happy it aint just me :) (srry all) heres my luck today with this stupid hand.

I raise UTG 4x BB (800) dude next to me calls every1 else folds...

I figure monster hand next to me AA KK maybe QQ cash game btw
flop came Js 2h 3d

so i make pot size bet to get rid of the donkey, but he reraises, an i call

now the 2d comes on the turn.... sweet right???

no jackass reraises me i call with the nut boat.

Wrong $20.00 later he hit quads for the third time at the same table!!!!!!!

I hate online poker for this
 
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srry guys i was drinking a lil last night when i made last post... it was a $11.50 sng not a cash game, had a cash game i lost $20.00 in at the same time
 
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Any pocket pair that doesn't improve to a set is still... one pair! Be it Aces or sevens, it's still just one pair. With that said, I'm opening from anywhere with Jacks, and I'm re-raising about 35% of the time. (I open larger UTG & UTG+1 with any hand I'd open.)

If we see a flop, I'm using my standard playbook: betting a dry board hard, and slowing down a bit if I'm played back at. If I do hit the set, I'll be value betting each street in the Micro's.

After years of losing BI's with Jacks through Queens, I've finally come to realize that Im not going to win every time, and that a pair by any other name is still a pair...
 
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JJ, not a monster hand. With it, you need to play very carefully, do not understand the players who go all-in with pocket jacks in early position. Raise 3BB, and from then on the basis of the flop and the number of players. If there was a 3-bet rate, then you can play 4-bet bet or make a call, depending of type of your opponents are at the table. I would choose a 4-bet :)
And if the big blind levels and a small stack then push all the chips
 
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raise 3bb then make a heavy bet if the flop drops in your favor. if the over card hits the flop make small raise to see how u lay
 
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raise preflop and on the flop already taken the necessary action- to raise the presence of Middle cards , pin or make a bet . If the opponent calls, then check fold
 
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JJ is great raising hand and has great potential.

Preflop your aiming to go headsup which we can then cbet most flops even with a scarey boards... but if ppl are showing aggression or shove us on later streets, we think overpair or better but then its player dependant.

Multipots we want to set it up and we can treat it more like a medium/small pockets hands ... we miss a set we can let it go, if many ppl in the hand we can justify going to turn because we hit a set at turn we will chip up ez pz.
 
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JJ is just like any other top pair like 10 10 , 99 , 88 . They are just hard to play early position sometimes. youre not guranteed a pot, you just gotta play it as best as possible and fold when you feel its beat.
 
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for the most part you should always keep your open the same. you don't want to make bigger opens with bigger hands and smaller ones with smaller hands. that get obvious real quick unless you mix it up and raise higher with mediocre hands once in awhile and they saw your hand at show down then raise bigger with a big hand like AA or KK something like that. just don't always do the same thing. but in general as i hate JJ also early position. i don't like just letting them go. make a 2.5x raise and see what develops. if someone raises. ask yourself what type of player they are how they have been playing and what you would do if they cbet half the pot or more with say a K on the board or 2 over cards etc. it will save you money to answer what you anticipate his actions will be later in the hand. say they shut down a lot when their cbet is called and then they check it down. if anything you can showdown and see what he was reraising with.
 
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