dj11
Legend
Silver Level
Premise is that we are already ITM, in a big tourney meaning lots of places get paid. We are short stacked with an M under 5, but folks on a zillion other tables are falling fast and we have already jumped a few pay grades, and if we do nothing but use up our remaining clock, we are sure to jump at least a few more pay grades. Comparably we are no threat, have little to no Fold equity.
I for one am often willing to blind out (still hoping for true monsters), if by doing so I will make more money over time than shoving a less than desirable hand. I've seen it too many times before that by following an odds based approach at times like that, I, or another player, misses out on money because he/I didn't hit his/my junk.
So one of the questions I have is; Just what is really a decent hand to shove with, under the above circumstances, and at what level (M level) do these requirements change.
I am very familiar with HoH and his philosophy of shoving earlier than when my M gets to 5, we did, and now our M is 5...what do we do? I'm pretty sure ICM at an M of 5, sort of looses it's oomph. We are squarely in panic mode.
And yes this does relate to a particular situation (game) recently played. He did it one way, I would have done it the other way, but most importantly he was already ITM.
Lets get beyond the 'in it to win it' mentality, and discuss the maximization of return via various methods.....
I for one am often willing to blind out (still hoping for true monsters), if by doing so I will make more money over time than shoving a less than desirable hand. I've seen it too many times before that by following an odds based approach at times like that, I, or another player, misses out on money because he/I didn't hit his/my junk.
So one of the questions I have is; Just what is really a decent hand to shove with, under the above circumstances, and at what level (M level) do these requirements change.
I am very familiar with HoH and his philosophy of shoving earlier than when my M gets to 5, we did, and now our M is 5...what do we do? I'm pretty sure ICM at an M of 5, sort of looses it's oomph. We are squarely in panic mode.
And yes this does relate to a particular situation (game) recently played. He did it one way, I would have done it the other way, but most importantly he was already ITM.
Lets get beyond the 'in it to win it' mentality, and discuss the maximization of return via various methods.....