Iso'ing and flatting

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Not sure whether this belongs in the Learning Poker section or whether it is more advanced than that. Please feel free to move it! :)

I've been reading an article about how to win 90-man KO tournaments at Full Tilt, and I was fine with most of it but one section left me wondering about some of the poker jargon.
Something else to keep in the back of your mind too is that while we’re not aggressively chasing bounties, other players are. So what you’ll see a lot of during these stages are players iso-shoving wide, which in turn means you can re-iso shove wide. When I iso an all-in, I like to flat (if it makes sense stack size wise). I often am flatted by another player or two that want to fight over the bounty. Remember that this will happen often, so you’ll want to adjust what you’re iso’ing with accordingly.
Can somebody translate that into simple English for me, please? :)
 
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Since players like to chase bounties (usually loose) you have a few things you need to take into consideration. When an opponent sticks it all in to isolate a previous all-in, If you believe the isolator is shoving just to isolate the first all-in just to collect the bounty, you then can possibly shove a wider range in order to pick up two extra stacks and bounties.

If one were to just flat call a shove, this could lead to a player or two flatting the shove behind you in order to pick up the dead money and fight over the bounty post-flop. If you are to flat the opening shove, you must adjust your range accordingly expecting that somebody may flat behind you, or re-shove to isolate both you and the initial shover.

...I think...
 
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Thanks :)

So in this bit:
When I iso an all-in, I like to flat (if it makes sense stack size wise).
is he saying that he usually likes to flat in standard tournaments, but in KO tournaments you have to be more careful about it? Or does he mean that he likes to flat in the KO tournaments... or maybe both? :p
 
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I believe that is what he's saying. But I think he is adding a word of caution that if you do flat, be prepared for others to flat behind you. In that case you have to have a pretty good handle on you opponent's ranges and be confident in post flop play.

I'm guessing what he means by the "stack size" bit is if he has a deep enough stack to cover the initial shove, not be at risk of being priced in to a post flop shove and can easily call/fold if he whiffs the flop and another flatter decided to get overly aggressive trying to claim the bounty and the dead money.

Say he has t7500 and the initial shover pushes for t500 and there is one other flatter behind. He has t7000 post flop and there is t1500 (less any blinds, I'm just keeping this simple). He is not deeply involved enough to be committed to the pot and has some breathing room for post flop play with the other active stack. If he completely misses (say AcKs on a heart flop) then he is not putting himself into a difficult situation with players still to act.
 
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