An interesting hand who lost me £150 yesterday

So I was at my local casino playing cash poker yesterday. Blinds are £1/£1. I bought in with £20 and got up to £150 in the end playing some nice poker in my opinion.

I was in middle-late position with Jh-Qc.
Everybody calls and the flop comes 9s-Jd-Jc.
One player at the early position goes all-in and is trying to encourage the player next to him to call but he folds eventually.

Player to the right of me also goes all in quietly (he didn't play many hands before at all).
Since I floped three of a kind, I had a feeling that I must go all in even though I had a feeling somebody had a better hand. So I go all-in and the player to the right of me shows J-K off suit. At the moment, I knew I am going home. The first all-in player in the early position showed pocket kings.

The turn comes 4s and the river is 2d.

The total pot was something around £400.


Should I have folded it? How hard is it to fold such a hand? Did I play good poker right there? The player to the left of me said "this is poker for you boy". /discuss

you had a pot in the 4-10 dollar range

then 2 players shove 100+ into the pot...?

you were lucky to be in such good position and against players who didnt just slowly suck your money into the pot

This is what I see the major problem here is:

BobbyFTW said:

... I was in middle-late position with Jh-Qc.
Everybody calls ...

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When so many are in a hand it's hard to to be confident here. Four hands have you beat here. And, the way the pre-flop went, I don't think that you can count any of them out.

I wouldn't be concerned about the first guy, but with the second guy in, now there's reason to be concerned.

Personally, I have more reasons to fold than call here!

tbdbitl said:

This is what I see the major problem here is:


When so many are in a hand it's hard to to be confident here. Four hands have you beat here. And, the way the pre-flop went, I don't think that you can count any of them out.

I wouldn't be concerned about the first guy, but with the second guy in, now there's reason to be concerned.

Personally, I have more reasons to fold than call here!

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I'm struggling to think of any ranges where we don't have equity to call.

Yeah would be tough to release the clutches on this hand. And as previously said, it would be nice to not have to make this decision at all by sitting out with QJ off in this position or if you're really gonna be frisky, raise and get some info first. My guess is the kings shoves over you and you get away cheap and KJ folds. If kings decided to be silly and cheap call then you nailed him on the flop and you're in the $. Either way you'd be better off than the position you ended up in.

sorry, but if anyone is folding here holding a jack... you're crazy. There are plenty of hands that make these moves after the flop playing in a B&M casino at 1/1 blinds. I mean... really..... the play at 1/2 NL is bad, i can't imagine 1/1 being tighter.... this is an instant call, and you just cry when he shows you one of the 4 unlikely hands that have you beat.

pfb8888 said:

you had a pot in the 4-10 dollar range

then 2 players shove 100+ into the pot...?

you were lucky to be in such good position and against players who didnt just slowly suck your money into the pot

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Exactly. Only because this is a tiny pot with suddenly huge bets, I would fold anything worse than Ace/Jack, and even Ace/Jack would be a crying call, fully expecting to see pocket nines. Now if this was a $100 pot before the flop, then we saw this flop, and then $200 more went into the pot, I snap call.

Really? Cut it out.. Snap call..#endofthread

Continue if u must.

BobbyFTW said:

I had a feeling somebody had a better hand.

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^^^^^^ Why do we have a gut and why do we (dont we) listen to it????

All the "This is the ONLY way to play here" responses make me lol. This is one of those WA/WB situations and they happen in micro online games, small stakes live games and any other game. Some posts say you are ALWAYS ahead at these stakes. Well, lmao, no you are not.

A tough decision for your entire stack. IMO there is NO wrong play here. Call.. ok Fold....ok. Some ppl like to play higher variance poker. It is not wrong. Some play lower variance. Ditto. Your gut says fold,...welllll

msufan said:

Exactly. Only because this is a tiny pot with suddenly huge bets, I would fold anything worse than Ace/Jack, and even Ace/Jack would be a crying call, fully expecting to see pocket nines. Now if this was a $100 pot before the flop, then we saw this flop, and then $200 more went into the pot, I snap call.

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Why would they shove 100 into <10 if they held 99? (why would they shove 100 into <10 with anything?)

Poker Orifice said:

Why would they shove 100 into <10 if they held 99? (why would they shove 100 into <10 with anything?)

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live tards? lol

but.. the guy shipped KK on a J J 9 board with 2 callers behind and expected to be called by worse..

and he limped in UTG?!

and the 'tight' guy on your right called/shipped it too..

you did have trips, but its possible for you to get away here.. especially compared to the size of your contribution to the pot.

even if you are ahead, I think most of the times in this spot you'll be behind..

ratings to the old guy on your left telling you 'thats poker' haha.

are people actually this bad live? :withstupi

Yes definitely wrong play from the KK player, I mean in tournament it can be possible in some cases to try raise preflop and push then with not-so-deep stack but with deeper stacks or in such cash game it's just a waste of chips/money.
And to call.. well after one allin possibly, but after two allins it's pretty likely someone is better unless you have some perfect read I would say.

i dont agree with the "snap callers" in this thread at all, you have put exactly $1 into this pot right?, the UTG goes massively over the top all in, and the tight quiet nit calls this massive bet

so the UTG guy could have pretty much anything, he might be a horrible player, messing around, KK as he had etc, we would call him in a second, but what does the nit have when he calls that massive overshove? it has to be 99 or a J, so then your calling off all of your money into a pot you only stuck $1 into, in the hope that nitty guy has a worse kicker, naaaaaa, i am folding this pretty easily

I the second limper had called I think it's a snap call but with the caller ahead of you I think you can find a fold here.

Next time raise pre or fold and avoid situations like this.

Oh and what are you doing buying in for £20 at a £1/£1 game!??!

If you're going to play a hand, make sure it's a hand you're going to raise with, at least you'll know how strong it is preflop by how many callers you get.

If you find you can't or don't feel it's worth a raise with so many limpers then your best bet is to fold.
I will only do one of two things from your position with your cards, if folded around to me, I will raise otherwise I will fold.

I know I would gone in. That's because it appears the right thing to do. If others are calling it is still a coin flip. I go in with the best hand on a coin flip and lose. I have a straight with 3 different suits on the table. Go all in, against 2 cards same suit. Next 2 cards give him a flush. Go all in with pair aces against ace king. The king ace flips a straight..

AllInDom said:

I know I would gone in. That's because it appears the right thing to do. If others are calling it is still a coin flip. I go in with the best hand on a coin flip and lose. I have a straight with 3 different suits on the table. Go all in, against 2 cards same suit. Next 2 cards give him a flush. Go all in with pair aces against ace king. The king ace flips a straight..

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what

Raise pre and snap

AllInDom said:

I know I would gone in. That's because it appears the right thing to do. If others are calling it is still a coin flip. I go in with the best hand on a coin flip and lose. I have a straight with 3 different suits on the table. Go all in, against 2 cards same suit. Next 2 cards give him a flush. Go all in with pair aces against ace king. The king ace flips a straight..

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Wat.

AllInDom said:

I know I would gone in. That's because it appears the right thing to do. If others are calling it is still a coin flip. I go in with the best hand on a coin flip and lose. I have a straight with 3 different suits on the table. Go all in, against 2 cards same suit. Next 2 cards give him a flush. Go all in with pair aces against ace king. The king ace flips a straight..

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That is poker for you boy.

BobbyFTW said:

The player to the left of me said "this is poker for you boy". /discuss

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Thats when you stand up and yell "Boy???? You callin me BOY???????? I will make YOU my BITCH.......... BOY"....

lol.

AllInDom said:

I know I would gone in. That's because it appears the right thing to do. If others are calling it is still a coin flip. I go in with the best hand on a coin flip and lose. I have a straight with 3 different suits on the table. Go all in, against 2 cards same suit. Next 2 cards give him a flush. Go all in with pair aces against ace king. The king ace flips a straight..

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what?

Aldito said:

what

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bgomez89 said:

Wat.

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Poker Orifice said:

what?

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:dito:

fletchdad said:

:dito:

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+1 lmao :five:

A flopped quad or full boat would slow play that board so you could eliminate them.
Because the board was unsuited then it was hard for you to suspect a stronger jack set.
You have to suspect KJ or AJ are in the hand, however, I respect your call, you were unlucky.
I respect your call, you were unlucky.