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Dear members,

As I`m playing poker and I almost know I will lose the hand..... sometimes I call the raise..... for example :

I have A spare and K hearts and the board shows 7 spare, 4 spare, A spare

I almost know that my opponent has and flush and he raises big....... I`m sometimes stupid to call..... I know I have to take control of this to grow in the game.

Does somebody has advise on how to take control on those actions?

Thanks!
Pietrino
 
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Go more often with your read and don't fall in love with good preflop hands, postflop.
 
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Does this overcome the most players or is it because a lack of experience and overwhelmed feelings? I have also found a text where the emotional rules are written and when I do something stupid I`m going to stop playing for 5 minutes and re-read the written text.

Thanks for your answer!
 
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I have the same problem, espesially when i´m in a chip-lead! I read the hand and is almost certain that my opponent has the better hand but i play it anyway.. i Think this is one of my main things to avoid to improve my game. guess that we will have to read better and not play on our fellings and realize that you can´t win all your hands :)
 
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this is the biggest problem and thats why I hate hands like AK ,AJ AQ etc.
 
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Do you have the following if so carry on if not then consider spending your money elsewhere.

Disciplined = The most successful poker players know when to stick to their guns and when to throw in the towel. You won’t win every hand, and you should know when you’re outwitted. Just keep at the game according to your long-term strategy, not letting a bad deal of the cards distract you. If your opponents are well-matched to your own skills, a little discipline could be the difference between a loss and a win at the end of the night.

Focused = You have to keep your eye on the game and pay attention at all time. Don’t let the television, the banter at the table, the music that you’re listening to, or Internet browsing interfere with your concentration. Successful players don’t let anything get in the way of their gameplay.

Prepared = When you sit down at the poker table, you have to be ready to play cards, both mentally and physically. When you’re not playing your best, you’ll end up losing. When you take your seat, you need to clear your mind from other worries. It helps to come to the table fully rested and fed.

Fearless = The majority of successful poker players have downswings, but they keep moving forward. You must be willing to take big risks and deal with a losing hand now and then while you keep moving up the ladder.

Aggressive = Similar to being fearless, you can’t let others control the action at the table. You need to be willing to demonstrate your abilities, and even bluff when necessary, to make sure you’re the leader, not the follower in the game. Make bold moves when the time is right, and your bankroll will grow as a result.

Ambitious = Poker players continue to improve when they keep striving against the odds. It’s from mistakes that you’ll learn your most valuable lessons. Instead of viewing a loss as a defeat, take it as an opportunity to grow and refine your skill.

Control Emotions = A good poker player knows he has to keep his emotions in check. Any outward signals of stress or worry will tip your opponents off that you don’t have a stellar hand. Keep yourself calm and collected to avoid giving away your position. Control yourself from demonstrating a reaction to your cards, and you’ll end up controlling the game.

Adaptable = The best poker players go with the flow. If you don’t end up with the ideal hand you were seeking, you have to be quick on your feet to come up with the next best scenario. One slip and you’ll lose out on a hand you should have won. You must be able to change gears at a moment’s notice, taking advantage of your opponents based on their gaming habits.

Be Patient = Live poker will seem like a slow game to players who honed their skills online. But it doesn’t matter where you play, as you need to patiently wait out a string of bad cards. The good cards will come to those who wait and don’t act foolishly while they wait.

Cheerful= Remember, at the end of the day, it’s only a game. Don’t get caught up in an opponent beating you on a single hand. Starting fights over a game is lame. The game of poker should be fun. While you can make a lot of money if you’re good, you should still enjoy yourself while you play. Don’t let the attitudes and actions of your opponents get under your skin.
As you can see, poker isn’t only a game of strategy and outsmarting your opponents, it’s an opportunity to challenge yourself and have a little fun. Take it seriously, always strive for improvement, and enjoy the ride while you’re at it. If you concentrate on playing your A game, you’ll find your way to the top!
 
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i think you have to measure the size of the raise to the pot so you can see if you have an +ev or a negative, for instance if the pot is too big, or big enough compared with the raise you should pay otherwise you shouldn´t,

for example, if the pot is 200 chips and you need to pay 100 chips to see the next card and your chances are 25% to get the card then you are losing money if you pay (no matter what the card shows next), but if the pot is 2000 chips and you have to pay 100 chips to see the nxt card, again with 25% of chances to get the nuts, then you are winning if you pay no matter what the next card is (winning in the long run by playing the right way everytime)
 
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I have ongoing issues with this too, sometimes I get it under control and make great laydowns, sometimes I'm on tilt and keep calling river shoves with TPTK or two pair, then villain flips over a straight or flush which I knew he had, but didn't want to admit it.

I think it's probably a combination of tilt and ego, it's hard sometimes to back down because it seems like we're showing weakness or submission. There's always this "one-upmanship" that goes on, and it's hard on the ego sometimes to let the other person win, especially when you were the aggressor pre-flop and up to the turn.
 
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AK suited or not, is not an invincible hand. Neither is AA unless you hit house or quads :p

Don't be too attached to your cards. Pre-flop premium monsters sometimes end up turning into timid mice at the flop/turn/river.
 
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I have the same problem, espesially when i´m in a chip-lead! I read the hand and is almost certain that my opponent has the better hand but i play it anyway.. i Think this is one of my main things to avoid to improve my game. guess that we will have to read better and not play on our fellings and realize that you can´t win all your hands :)
If you put them on a hand that beats yours, give them credit for the hand and fold. UNLESS you have good odds to make your draw, assuming that draw can beat their hand.

Or look at it this way, Don't pay to see their hand. Give yourself credit for a good lay down.

I have this problem too. I'm fixing it in this way.
 
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Dear members,

As I`m playing poker and I almost know I will lose the hand..... sometimes I call the raise..... for example :

I have A spare and K hearts and the board shows 7 spare, 4 spare, A spare

I almost know that my opponent has and flush and he raises big....... I`m sometimes stupid to call..... I know I have to take control of this to grow in the game.

Does somebody has advise on how to take control on those actions?

Thanks!
Pietrino
If you know that you lose, why not fold :D

But if seriously I am sure that in more half the cases, there are mistakes in the game.

Most read articles, watch videos, posted hands on forums, and a month later you will see that the game will improve. Need a lot of patience . Is not that simple, need learn more and play less.
 
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This was also my biggest obstacle. I have had to learn to go with my initial read and just lay the hand down, no matter how bad it hurt. AK, AQ, AJ, KQ, etc are not hands, they are only cards you must draw to in order to win.

I experimented with tightening my range a bit in a 1k guar last night. I quit playing A-rag and only played drawing hands with position and never called anything if the flop was no help. I placed 3rd and turned $11 in CC freeroll winnings into $129.

Its probably one of the toughest things to get around mentally. Luck is seldom your friend. Poker isn't really about being lucky. It's knowing how to put yourself into the position to maximize your chances of winning.
 
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Play all-in or fold style :)

If you can't raise, never call more than a min bet :)
 
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Hey Petr, welcome to CC!

Two thoughts on the OP:

In that specific scenario, if you can afford to (and depending on position) I might call them down, and hope for another spade to hit the board. That way, you have the nuts with your A -- and the chances of your villian laying down their flopped-flush is low. In essence, you'll have put them in the position you were just in!

Also, if you have a good read and/or you can afford it, I might also check-raise the villian here - especially if they are in position. A lot of players will bet a flop like that, regardless of their holdings, just to scare you off over-cards like AK or weak holdings. Your check raise will make them think you actually have a hand.

Now, weather you c-bet after said raise is up to you - if you do, you'll want to size your bet accordingly. If betting, I'd probably go with a small value bet - which I find can scare ppl off their cards more often then a huge bet. Also, if you don't hit a spade on the turn, you have a bit of pot control going into the river.

But, on the other hand, a check in this situation could serve you well too, if you are out of position. If you check after the check raise to your villian, if they bet, the size of their bet should give you some information about their holdings.

Just my two cents on the OP scenario... I make assumptions about position and what not, so I may be off on this hypothetically-specific advice... but I feel like this is a good practice of semi-bluffing with agression/fearlessness. It may not work out everytime, but unless you are comfortable laying it down on the flop, this could be a way to go.

Also, a semi-off-topic piece of advice - a great way to improve your game is by watching the flop closely. By that, I mean, think about what cards people would bet in correspondence to what is flopped. Pairs, draws, backdoor draws, over cards, etc. Always thinking about what other people could be holding, and the types of hands you can choose to represent during any given flop.
 
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I experimented with tightening my range a bit in a 1k guar last night. I quit playing A-rag and only played drawing hands with position and never called anything if the flop was no help. I placed 3rd and turned $11 in CC freeroll winnings into $129.

Congrats!

I, as well, never play rag aces - unless they're suited, and I'm IP with a big chip lead and see a good opportunity to speculate... or, if it's push/fold time and I'm close to blinding out.
 
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impulsive actions

Yes,I have this same problem although it's in a different form I always think everybodies bluffin.after you play about a 100 tourneys(mostly freerolls).You start to feel the pain of getting knocked out (hate losing) .It starts to sink in your head most people aren't blufin.There's one trick I see some people do wait your timer goes down 10 or 15 seconds when in your in a pot for each decison,drives opponents crazy but hey there the enemy,then maybe the higher parts of your brain will click in.
 
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If you put them on a hand that beats yours, give them credit for the hand and fold. UNLESS you have good odds to make your draw, assuming that draw can beat their hand.

Or look at it this way, Don't pay to see their hand. Give yourself credit for a good lay down.

I have this problem too. I'm fixing it in this way.

I have this in mind every time i sit down at a table now. Think i am a Little better laying down when the flop does´nt go my way!

I´ve just started playing so i'am not worried that i will learn from my mistakes and improve my game. Also made a decision to only play freerolls for a while! I know this games can be dodgie but i enjoy playing and feel that i develop my game :)
 
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There is the difference between professional and good players versus newbies , new players, less expierenced. Try to make that read and do what your feelings say, you will save lots of money!! Trust me.
 
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Think of the odds if your opponent has a flush or raises big then 6 outs 24% your gona lose 3 times outta 4 so financially youl be losing 300 to every 400 made or gaining 100 to every 300 lost I should say. based on that situation repeatadly coming up.

contrastly if you think the player is more likely to bluff or shove with one spade or make a donkish play you have pretty good equity with Ak and a potential flush
 
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bring more aggression to their good post flop hands
 
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Wow thanks peeps this post has really help me improve my game :) Have´nt brought in any big wins but i got some Money from a freeroll last night and reached two final tables today in Mikro SNG´s :)

My mental approach i Think is the biggest factor for the small sucess. drop my shitty hands and play aggressive on the better ones :) also calmer and more analysing what hands my oppenent might have and called quite a few bluffs sucessfully :)
 
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