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Big_Rudy
Legend
Silver Level
All implied odds means is that you stand to win a significant amount when/if you hit your unlikely hand. Basically, it means you can play more speculative hands as long as you believe that there is a reasonable chance you'll be paid-off big enough when you connect to make up for all the small losses when you don't connect.
That's the tricky thing about "implied odds". Are you really sure that you can stack your opponent when you hit some highly unlikely hand, or not. If you make your hand, but don't manage to get paid-off in a big way, it becomes a lose/lose proposition. You lose all the times you don't connect and you don't win enough back when you do connect to make-up for those losses.
So, long story short.... if you're going to play highly speculative hands when deep stacked, you'd better have some reads on your opponents that they'll actually pay you off when you hit that disguised monster.
That's the tricky thing about "implied odds". Are you really sure that you can stack your opponent when you hit some highly unlikely hand, or not. If you make your hand, but don't manage to get paid-off in a big way, it becomes a lose/lose proposition. You lose all the times you don't connect and you don't win enough back when you do connect to make-up for those losses.
So, long story short.... if you're going to play highly speculative hands when deep stacked, you'd better have some reads on your opponents that they'll actually pay you off when you hit that disguised monster.
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ruffcut68
Rock Star
Silver Level
any math theory to go with this?
playing 2 nl so getting paid is easy most go with TPTK (Top Pair Top Kicker).
Very good point about the reads.
player a opens for 3-5x and has a vpip of over 60% and 100% open raise. so how often to I need to win the stack to make playing a spec hand profitable. Obvious check fold if no connection.
that is the easy part.
also looking for a way to calculate the percentage of the time that any specific holding will hit a flop given all the possible flops
some examples such as 78s, 39, q2,33. not the i play these hands some times it is profitable to play napkins just wondering if MISTER CALLING STATION appears what the odds would be of hitting a flop in any particular way.
playing 2 nl so getting paid is easy most go with TPTK (Top Pair Top Kicker).
Very good point about the reads.
player a opens for 3-5x and has a vpip of over 60% and 100% open raise. so how often to I need to win the stack to make playing a spec hand profitable. Obvious check fold if no connection.
that is the easy part.
also looking for a way to calculate the percentage of the time that any specific holding will hit a flop given all the possible flops
some examples such as 78s, 39, q2,33. not the i play these hands some times it is profitable to play napkins just wondering if MISTER CALLING STATION appears what the odds would be of hitting a flop in any particular way.
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baudib1
Legend
Silver Level
Don't play ANY speculative hands against this guy unless he gives up a ton postflop.
Very someone with a wide range who's aggro postflop you are looking to make TPGK or a huge draw like overs + nut flush draw and get stacks in on the flop or just bet/bet/bet for 3 streets of value. you'll looking to play AJ/AQ/AK/KQ/KJ/QJ type hands that make good top pairs or big flush draws + overs. Small pairs are going to be worthless against someone with a wide preflop range and aggressive barreling tendencies because you will either fold the best hand a lot on the flop or lose a lot of money trying to bluffcatch and it is very unlikely you get paid off when you do hit because his range is not strong enough.
If he opens a ton AND gives up after the flop then you can try to play suited connectors against him and play aggressively when you flop decent equity.