Page 2 - This is a discussion on If you can call you can raise. within the online poker forums, in the Learning Poker section; I've often heard "If you can call you can raise" in poker. Is this true? Sure it can give you another way to win if
That statement has some truth but isn't always true. You need to protect your range which means in some situations calling may hurt you range or raising may hurt your range. So it literally has to be one or the other. Another reason why I think this is false is because of this: I'm in the BB and the button opens for 2.2bb, SB folds and I call with Ac8d. The flop comes 8s6s2h. I have no blockers for any of the straight or flush draws and top pair top kicker in this situation is very vulnerable to variance. This should be a prime area where you want to create your donk betting range. The reason is you want to deny equity to hands like 74s or T9s while increasing the pot in case you win at showdown. Checking in situations like this will make for tough spots on the turn with any over card other than the Ah but even when that card hits it makes your opponents range stronger with heart flush draw.
July 12th, 2018, 5:16 AM
Poker at: ACR
Game: Hold em
The biggest difference if calling closes the round of betting
July 12th, 2018, 6:48 AM
Online Poker at: PokerStars
Every situation is different. You can't always call preflop and you can't always raise. It depands on the action behind, the players left to act, your stack size and their stack size, type of game.. yeah so it's totally stupid to raise in every situation
July 12th, 2018, 9:09 AM
Poker at: Any
Completely not true. Hands should be played situationally with information. You can't play every spot the same.
July 12th, 2018, 11:22 AM
The term over simplifies the game and belongs in the beginners section.
And yes, it's limited to:
- pre flop
- first action (no other bets have been placed)
July 22nd, 2018, 9:18 AM
To call or to raise, obviously if you believe you have the best hand and the other players is just playing aggressive you would raise. If your betting on hitting a big hand then maybe a call...case by case decision....But very true if you can call, you can raise but then comes the question how much do you raise ???
July 24th, 2018, 7:21 PM
Online Poker at: Party Poker
Depends on to many factors. I think you should raise greats hands.
July 30th, 2018, 8:09 PM
Poker at: Pokerstars
Sometimes I would rather limp in.
A limp in can be as effective as a raise sometimes. If you have the bankroll and out of position, then why raise with a minimal hand if you can get away with a minimum bet?
July 31st, 2018, 1:52 AM
Online Poker at: Bet Online
Game: NL holdem
To bet or raise, you are trying to extract value out of a better hand or get a worse hand to fold.
If you have an ok but beatable hand and you bet/raise, then you will be called by a strong hand and you fold out weaker hands.
August 7th, 2018, 6:30 PM
Poker at: ACR
Game: Hold em
Obviously not true. Can call third pair. Wouldn't ever raise it. It doesn't get as many folds as you might think.
August 8th, 2018, 1:56 AM
Online Poker at: ACR
I think the point of it is to get players to think more about what they are doing. It is easy to fall into a passive play style and not think about what is really going on in the hand with hopes the next card helps or doesn't hurt you.
I think the more accurate is to think "If I can call, am I better of raising? If I can't raise, am I better off just folding?"
August 8th, 2018, 2:20 PM
Jack Reacher 
Poker at: pokerstars
Good tight player will definitely stick with this rule,i mean you cannot be a tight player and simultaneously limping.Create strategy what suits you the most=read what gives you profit the most and stick to it like your life depends on it.Dont get complacent when you start to show profit is also important.
September 3rd, 2018, 1:44 PM
Andrey Zubkov 
too many factors. The idea is true - raise is better call. But it depends on the situation
September 3rd, 2018, 6:33 PM
Poker at: pokerstars
calling is a legitimate play when you want a player to bet into you. If there's a big draw on the board and you are ahead but don't have a made hand - calling is legit. Same with if you are ahead and you think your opponent is betting his draw.
I play tournaments primarily. I'd rather reduce my variance. Adding money to a pot can put more of your chip stack at risk on 4th and it compounds it on 5th.
If you find you are getting bluffed out of pots too much on the river (you have to fold every that gets there on the river) you are telegraphing what you have too much and you've helped build a pot without enough of an edge to make it worthwhile.
September 4th, 2018, 4:21 AM
easy answer: Always change it up.
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