Icemonkey9 Plays 50nl and Mr.Sticker Sweat [45mins/210mb]

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Watch it and love it.

Video is QuickTime, 45 minutes long, 210mb zip file download.

[link broken ~tb]

There are a couple of spots where we both were WAY off in our thinking. Some of it turned out okay for me fortunately :)

Your comments would be much appreciated on some of the "trouble" hands.
 
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Downloading now. Will watch tomorrow.
 
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Hopefully I'll get to watch/comment tomorrow
 
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Nice job. I couldn't make out much of what Stick said, so it's good that you clarified some.

I didn't watch too closely as I was doing other things (was supposed to be working) at the same time, but I recall being less hesitant to call a bet OOP after you checked your J that came on the turn. That was an autocall for me, but then I tend to spew when I've raise pf.

And one other hand that you autofolded 68s from the CO or button; unless you had some stats that I couldn't see I like raising that unopened.

Sorry for the vagueness of the hand reference, but I was supposed to be working. :)
 
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Yep, the sound of my voice is a bit faint in this one. Kinda like it was coming out of the speakers and then through the mic. But the sound was better in the next video we did.
 
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Yup my bad i didnt have the speakers up to where they should be for my snowball to catch it.
 
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Watched like 30 minutes, heres what i got:

~6:00 u talk about how you should be limping 44 UTG. Personally, I'm raising all pairs from any position unopened. I'm not a huge fan of limping UTG with anything.

~6:30 top right table, 40/0 limps UTG and you have A2s on the button. I'm isolating here 100% of the time.

7:30 bottom left table, you call a turn bet with the pair of Aces and then give it up on the river when villain bets less than 1/2 pot. If you're calling turn here you have to be calling river.

8:50 top right table 3bet the QQ to atleast 6.50 preflop. You dont even raise his bet 3x.

Simultaneously, bottom left. You hit TPGK on the turn on a 2 flush/straight drawy board. The J only helps him if hes calling with QT for a gutshot. I bet/fold this turn to charge the more likely draws.

11:30 bottom left table, folded to u in CO with T8s, tight blinds, I steal this 100%

14:00 bottom left table, villain halfstack donks into you after you 3bet AQs. You have a Flush draw and an over and donkbets are almost always weak. I shove this all day long and expect him to fold a good portion of the time.

16:00 top left, folded to u in CO with K9, again steal here

20:58 top left, folded to CO who has a 31% steal attempt. You have KQs, I 3bet here and if not I definately call as this is a steal alot of the time and you have position on him.

27:24 bottom left, folded to u on button with 86s, should be another steal
 
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On the discussion of raising vs. limping PPs in EP. The argument can be made for both, but the more aggressive the game the more you should be raising or folding (guy I know who plays 400nl FR says he folds low PPs in EP). I know personally if I'm in late position and you limp in EP I'm jacking it up almost 100% with any playable hand. Then postflop I just cbet and fold to resistance. I make you fold when you don't hit the set and don't pay you off when you do hit it. Raising gives you the initiative in the hand and makes your range look a lot stronger (UTG raising ranges are super-tight, as even with PPs it's basically PPs/AK/AQ/MAYBE AJs). This way you can get a lot of folds just raising and cbetting or a lot of preflop folds.

If you are playing with calling stations however, who aren't going to squeeze you and are going to stack super-light, then limping's fine as you have implied odds to set mine.

Of course one counter if you want to limp is to also limp big pairs as well and mix in moves like limp-raising squeezes and making C/R moves without a set. But this is likely getting too fancy and you miss out on HUGE value from big pairs preflop especially if you get a train of limpers and no one squeezes. All of a sudden you're playing your AA for set value basically.
 
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~6:10 you mention if they know what they're doing with the 44 they'll squeeze. Remember you opened from UTG so your range is extremely strong. The call behind is then usually an implied odds hand that wants to hit big or hit a big draw and either push you off your big pair or get their hand paid off. So although a squeeze works against him, your range is still super-strong here and I don't think a thinking player would be squeezing here without a legit hand.

bw mentions this but ~7:30 that 5 was not a bad card it was a very good card, because now unless he has AK his kicker doesn't play and we chop with AT/AJ which imo is a huge part of his range. But I agree with bw there, you can't fold to such a small bet on that river with TP. If he bets pot here I'd consider folding but when he makes such a small bet I think you just have to look him up. He also limped behind preflop which should rule out AK against most players. Also note that in addition to helping your kicker not play the second 5 counterfits Q9 so now you have that beat. I just don't think you're beat by a ton here and if you are it's worth paying him off with the super-small bet.

~9:00 the 298 board 2-toned I wouldn't exactly classify as a dry flop and would consider just check-folding depending on stats, but I guess a cbet isn't horrible. After the J peels though I do agree with betting. 7T/QT got there, but they'll be raising and aren't a huge part of their range. So I bet 3/4 pot or so and obviously fold to a raise. Also not a big thing but especially after thinking for so long on the turn, don't insta-check the river. At least wait a few seconds and then act. The insta-check basically tells him nothing changed for you, you were planning to check river before and that river didn't change anything. If you pause he knows it's possible you picked up a flush and could be going for a C/R or something. Just remember, waiting for a little bit doesn't give anything away, because you do it when you're thinking or when it's an easy decision, but if you act quick it gives information that you had an easy decision. It's not possible to fake this or balance it by acting quickly when we have to think for a while lol.

~14:45, AQ you turn TPTK with 2 kings and river the boat K's over A's, I really don't like the raise on that river. What do you think is calling you that you beat? Another A probably calls, so you lose some to rake but is essentially breakeven and obviously a K calls you with quads. Do you really think a PP is calling you here ever?

Discussion on donking vs. C/Ring with the set. Most players if they raise preflop are going to cbet a flush draw. They want to build a pot for when they do hit and get some FE while their equity is high. So if he's cbetting flush draws we don't care about giving him a free card because he'll never have it. The other question is whether the flush card would scare him from putting money into the pot with a worse hand. It's possible he would check behind mid pair and then not put much more in but we're not getting much from him with a donk bet either. So personally I like a C/R here with someone cbetting a decent amount. If he's super-passive postflop and checks his draws then donking into him isn't bad. We just have to look at the hands he could have. The flush draws that cbet a C/R is good. The sets/2-pair either way is fine because most likely we both want the money in and the same with over-sets just it's bad. If he checks behind flush draws then we want to donk into him I guess, but with someone who cbets this much I like a C/R here more.

lol at the Amy hand, guy calls with 99 to that shove and complains that she called with Q7o? Of course it's not a good play to do it consistently but if he's gonna pay her off when she hits that call all of a sudden is a profitable move, so he has no room to complain lol.

~33:30 - agree with Sticker in general, I think 34s is a bit low, but if you had like 56s+ I'd consider limping if there were a few limpers. Obviously if you've got some regs who will squeeze in the blinds you can't limp as much.

~39:45 - What is he doing this with? 23/56/67c seem like decent possibilities. Also remember he's a favorite I believe with those hands, so I think I'd fold that flop, just because I don't see what a halfstack's doing this with that we beat. We're either barely ahead or way behind basically. If we had AK I may consider stacking here because AQ/AJ could stack. Also, you're discussing pot odds but ignoring the fact that no matter what the rest of the money's going in if you call. Are you really folding when a club comes? Also calling you kinda turn your hand face up so the opponent isn't going to shove a flush draw here and basically I think you're beat unless he's overplaying a weak ace. Just my opinion.
 
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ty for the comments guys, very helpful, really appreciate your time and analysis!
 
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