I want to learn what's acceptable to complete In SB

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I'm wondering, how wide can I complete from SB (assuming multiple limpers preflop), because they are giving better odds for me to call. So how loose can we go with this?

I personally never complete from SB unless I have suited connectors and/or connected hands or like Ax/Kx but the Kx depends on how high the kicker Is.

So since this Is a leak, I want to know/learn how to plug this leak.

Would something like this be acceptable?

party poker No-Limit Hold'em, 5.5 Tournament, 2,500/5,000 Blinds 500 Ante (8 handed) - Party-Poker Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com



saw flop | saw showdown

Hero (SB) (t197,564)
CO (t108,893)
MP1 (t25,868)
UTG+1 (t213,587)
MP2 (t67,937)
UTG (t157,912)
Button (t67,616)
BB (t234,200)

Hero's M: 17.18

Preflop: Hero is SB with 3
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, K
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2 folds, MP1 calls t5,000, MP2 calls t5,000, 3 folds, BB checks

Flop: (t21,500) K
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, K
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, 6
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(3 players)
BB checks, MP1 bets t5,000, 2 folds

Total pot: t26,500

Results below:
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This Is prior to ITM btw, so could I complete and see a cheap flop, with all those limpers, and only It costing another half a BB, what do you all think?
 
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My range there. providing I have >20bb and bb is not a short stack ready to shove, is pretty much any suited and remotely connected hand. Your getting 10:1.. flop hard or GTFO for 1/2bb.
 
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My range there. providing I have >20bb and bb is not a short stack ready to shove, is pretty much any suited and remotely connected hand. Your getting 10:1.. flop hard or GTFO for 1/2bb.

I was thinking exactly like that. With the odds I was getting, only Issue I had was had I completed, was the BB gonna reshove to squeeze everyone out? Not to mention, K3o Is utter garbage
 
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I was thinking exactly like that. With the odds I was getting, only Issue I had was had I completed, was the BB gonna reshove to squeeze everyone out? Not to mention, K3o Is utter garbage

Yeah I probably just fold K3o there too... I probably call K3s though, just that extra 2% equity makes a big difference when the pot odds are that good.

We do have to rely on our postflop skill more in these spots though and, for eg, be willing to fold top pair.

If you do not feel you have a postflop edge, or that your opponent is going to exploit position and put you under a lot of pressure it is ok to fold pre though, that being said we are pretty much only looking to continue when we flop hard anyway.
 
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K3s yes, K3o no, big suited cards are usually fine to overlimp, same with Axs
 
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K3s yes, K3o no, big suited cards are usually fine to overlimp, same with Axs

What about them "gap hands" 107s/58s/69s and so forth and so on?
 
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yeah they are fine in this kind of spot coz you can make flushes and straights, plus you only continue if you smash the board, just dont get to attached if you limp T7s and it comes QTx be willing to fold to 1/2 bets multiway, coz you are only calling to win big pots with flushes and straights, not medium size pots with bluff catchers
 
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