I just lost all my bankroll. How can I improve to play better onn micro stakes?

Hello everybody. I started playing online Holdem last week in micro stakes (0.10/0.20) 6-Max tables and won $20+

I made around $2-5 an hour. Everything was fine until I started loosing a ton of money. My premium hands lost to far less valuable hands, I only got low pairs and made a mistake defying pot odds with straight and flush draws. Now I'm sitting with $0.00 in my account.

I know my play needs improvement, but I'm not sure in which parts.

Basically I steal blinds when in postition and play tight, waiting for the right hand to strike. The biggest problem is that it doesn't always pay off. I find myself at times when I'm going against a calling stations who chase their draws and beat me on the river. There are times when I get called all in with a full house yet other times people fold to my min bet after calling a raise on pre-flop.

So any tips for a newbie like me?

Make sure you're using correct bankroll management, it doesn't seem you are at the minute. You shouldn't be playing 20nl on a small roll. I think you need like $800+ Bankroll for these games.

Post hands as well so people can see your leaks and give some feedback. This will help you a lot

SwiftHax said:

The biggest problem is that it doesn't always pay off. I find myself at times when I'm going against a calling stations who chase their draws and beat me on the river. There are times when I get called all in with a full house yet other times people fold to my min bet after calling a raise on pre-flop.

So any tips for a newbie like me?

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Figure out what your real leaks are. The things you've listed are simply part of poker. They happen to everyone, more during some stretches than others.

Occasionally, these things may happen enough in a short time to result in a losing streak. But we're only talking occasionally and short term.

Have a break sir, read some poker stuff, but choose it carefully try to beat tilt moments and you are going to win some money

Variance is more intense online because of hand volume, you need to be aware of sequnces you will always run terrible at times. Its one big Cycle of ups and downs

the essential difference beetween a break even grinder and a winner grinder is they know how to maximise there profit when running good and minimise there losses when running bad.

there will be times you get great hands and great flops but will need to let the hand go. patience is key -

I personally feel it comes in cycles so if I've run very good had some huge hands I know that the card simulation formula is not programmed to keep giving out monsters to win again and again,
So Im wary of a bad beat as a certain percentage of hands will always be coolered

cotta777 said:

Variance is more intense online because of hand volume, you need to be aware of sequnces you will always run terrible at times. Its one big Cycle of ups and downs

the essential difference beetween a break even grinder and a winner grinder is they know how to maximise there profit when running good and minimise there losses when running bad.

there will be times you get great hands and great flops but will need to let the hand go. patience is key -

I personally feel it comes in cycles so if I've run very good had some huge hands I know that the card simulation formula is not programmed to keep giving out monsters to win again and again,
So Im wary of a bad beat as a certain percentage of hands will always be coolered

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wat?

SwiftHax, my advice is to not listen to any of the post I've quoted.

Try starting out in the lowest buyin levels. Pick up some reading material (inquire about what might be a decent book for the level of skill you're at with the game & the format you're choosing to play). Watch how the better players are playing their hands via hand replayer (which ones are the better players?... the ones who are winning in the longrun).

Poker Orifice said:

wat?

SwiftHax, my advice is to not listen to any of the post I've quoted.

Try starting out in the lowest buyin levels. Pick up some reading material (inquire about what might be a decent book for the level of skill you're at with the game & the format you're choosing to play). Watch how the better players are playing their hands via hand replayer (which ones are the better players?... the ones who are winning in the longrun).

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Lol. ok then.
everything is a cycle whats so hard to believe?

and also may I state its a fact maximising your winnings when you run well and minimising your losses 'leaks' are where the margin is made...
AKA good decision making great post flop play.

Dont worry, its quite common in the intial days of your poker career...It happens to almost every 3rd player....And chances are it will happen again to you till u become a good player....
This is the point when u try and build your bank roll again by learning how to play better by watching videos...discussing hands and stuff as players above quoted !!!
Just enjoy the journey of you poker career,,,this isnt the end until u give up !!!

First you need to calm down, come down and have a rest. Then everything would be analyzed, weighed, looked for errors and devising further plan to make it not happen again. A better absolutely ALL bankroll not lose, but at least 25% post (this is for you in the future advice)
When well rested read articles about bankroll management, you have a problem with it.

first of all try to have a better bankroll managment so you wont get broke, i know its really difficult but unfortunately its the only way to keep your money ¨safe¨
after a downswing.
I found lower stakes very difficult to play because as you said there are lots of calling stations, so your best option for beating those tables is a very tight aggresive poker style. entering a hand, preferably with a good position, and wait for a good flop. You should almost never try to bluff against calling station players because they wont fold and you will end up losing lots of money from them. so the best choice is to value bet, dont c bet a lot when you dont hit a good flop, and try not to pay lot of money with flush or straight draws.

rock0001 said:

I found lower stakes very difficult to play because as you said there are lots of calling stations, so your best option for beating those tables is a very tight aggresive poker style. entering a hand, preferably with a good position, and wait for a good flop. You should almost never try to bluff against calling station players because they wont fold and you will end up losing lots of money from them. so the best choice is to value bet, dont c bet a lot when you dont hit a good flop, and try not to pay lot of money with flush or straight draws.

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I tend to agree with this.

Bankroll management aside, pulling bluffs in micros has more to do with knowing the table than it has to do strictly with position. You still have to factor in position, but you also got to heavily factor in the playing style of your table.

Patience in micro ring games is key, way more than micro tournament play.

Since the blinds don't go up, they are the perfect environment to practice counting your outs and stacking them against pot odds, but it can be hard on the nerves sometimes.

what is the bankroll you were playing with ? once a day everyone gets a streak of bad beats. make sure you don't bring too much money to the tables. have a look at google chris ferguson bankroll management. a few simple rules that minimiz the risk of getting out of money

rock0001 said:

I found lower stakes very difficult to play because as you said there are lots of calling stations, so your best option for beating those tables is a very tight aggresive poker style. entering a hand, preferably with a good position, and wait for a good flop. You should almost never try to bluff against calling station players because they wont fold and you will end up losing lots of money from them. so the best choice is to value bet, dont c bet a lot when you dont hit a good flop, and try not to pay lot of money with flush or straight draws.

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If you find low levels difficult to play, the most likely reason may be that you're reluctant to make the appropriate adjustments. The more you insist on playing the way you want vs. adapting, the less easy you make it on yourself.

cotta777 said:

Lol. ok then.
everything is a cycle whats so hard to believe?

and also may I state its a fact maximising your winnings when you run well and minimising your losses 'leaks' are where the margin is made...
AKA good decision making great post flop play.

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It's not a cycle. Your advice is absurd and stupid.

cotta777 said:

Variance is more intense online because of hand volume, you need to be aware of sequnces you will always run terrible at times. Its one big Cycle of ups and downs

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This ignores the factor of how much edge players have vs their opponents. With a sufficient advantage, which includes skill but can also involve things like table and level selection, it's possible to run badly and still win, just not as much. In such cases, you could say its a big cycle of different-sized ups with no downs.

the essential difference beetween a break even grinder and a winner grinder is they know how to maximise there profit when running good and minimise there losses when running bad.

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This seems to say that one should play differently when running good vs when running bad. I'd really like to see if you can back this up.

everyone will eventually lose out on their bankroll. i have lost about three times but it was only my starting out cash a few years back. now i'm just scratching again up the tree. keep grinding and use chris ferguson's rules of bankroll management when he turned $0 to $10,000 in 18 months. you don't have start at zero but it a good rule of thumb that the has.