I Find it hard to fold in Omaha H/L

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I allways have feeling I must see flop in Omaha H/L because every 4 card looks great . When you guys fold preflop ??? What is card you dont play ( except when you have 3 same card)
 
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You're right. That's the caveat, and the Achilles heel of many Holdem players when they attempt Omaha HL... that any four cards look good... and this too often gets them into trouble post-flop.

The best starting starting hands are *balanced*, with all four cards working together.

Many HE players overvalue pocket pairs, which don't carry nearly the same equity in Omaha as they do in Holdem.

You can look here for some more information: https://www.cardschat.com/forum/learning-poker-57/i-learned-play-omaha-hi-lo-251336/

GL in your quest!
 
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Omaha H/L has also its own list of starting hands. Meaning you have also to be

selective and not to enter all the time.

Actually this variant is one of my favorites.
 
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Yea , you are right . Still have to play lots of hands in Omaha to take some experience
 
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I personally say that Omaha HI / LO will have to play the game pointing LO 1.2 if we link in our 4 cards and the flop comes with 3 cards lower than 8 ALLIN play safely.
 
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For me in omaha to be h/lo not the river is what defines if your hand is winner or not, because until the end you never know what can happer to.
 
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agree

Yap , sometimes you have 4 5 Q 10 , and only on river you rely now if you got nutts , ( flop A 3 J 7 2 )
 
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A good strategy is to try to think only about Low at first. If your cards don't have chances to hit Low and you don't have top pairs, suited connectors and moreover you cards of the same color it's time to fold.
 
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THX

Omaha H/L has also its own list of starting hands. Meaning you have also to be

selective and not to enter all the time.

Actually this variant is one of my favorites.

Thx , but like I said every start hand looks good. I will try . Played omaha last 1 month and allways busted before bubble.
 
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I don't think that you should play every hand in Omaha H/L. Some of the best hands to have: AA23 (double-suited), A234 (double-suited), AA24 (double-suited), and AA22 (double-suited). As you can see, the best hands are hands that give you a chance to get you a strong low hand (has some of the lowest cards), and a chance to get a strong high hand (straights, flushes, full houses). Not many high-only hands are playable. Some of the best high-only hands are AAKK (double-suited), AAQQ (double-suited), and AAJ10 (double-suited). Though, when facing an allin preflop with these hands, the best decision is to fold, as in most hands there is a low, so it's not worth it to only go for half the pot (and you might not even get it). Any hand with 4 cards in between A-10 is playable (hopefully you get them in late position). But, don't risk to much with high-only hands. I'm no professional though. I don't play omaha hi/low much either. Anyways, hope this helps, and have a nice hand.
 
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I'm curious as to which variant of O8 OP is talking about. Is it Pot-Limit, Fixed-Limit, or no-limit? Each game has some distinct differences. For me, I'm not a fan of the No-Limit variant of the game.

Here are some things to consider in playing O8 regardless of the variant.

Hands with a 9 in it are almost useless. Even AA29 in certain spots are extremely vulnerable to being quartered in multi-way pots. Think of it as having a 3 legged chair.
Middle pairs (6-10's) are to be played carefully, if at all. Even if you flop a set, you're usually up against a bigger set, or some re-draw to a flush or straight.
Even if you have a hand like AA23, AA24, you'll want to be suited. If those hands are rainbow, you automatically take away the possibility of making a flush.
Nut low hands (A2xx) in multi-way pots can be vulnerable of being quartered, especially if xx are not other low cards, like 3, 4, or 5.

Case in point, I was playing some 5 card PLO8 earlier, and had A2xxx (xxx didn't contain a 3 or a 4) and there were 3 people in the hand to the river and they were all-in at that point, and I would have won 1/3 of the low and none of the high so I would have lot a big portion of my stack. But, I folded on the flop and only lost 3 bb's instead of 90 bb's.

A lot of Hold'em players overplay AAxx in Omaha too.
 
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Without an ace is better not to go to the bank.
 
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People are overplaying their lo draws, and most dont understand that lo wins max half of a pot, but many times lo splits betweent 2 or even 3 players... I also like hands like 789t, 9tjq even if they are not suited, hit straight many times, sometimes a full house. And dont pay too much money when having made two pairs, it s usualy not enough in omaha.
 
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People are overplaying their lo draws, and most dont understand that lo wins max half of a pot, but many times lo splits betweent 2 or even 3 players... I also like hands like 789t, 9tjq even if they are not suited, hit straight many times, sometimes a full house. And dont pay too much money when having made two pairs, it s usualy not enough in omaha.

I agree with your 4 card runs in omaha seem to be strong hands pre no mater if they are low, mid or high runs. IMO, pp's get you in the most trouble if raise and re-raise happen pre flop (you get stacked in chasing). I always try to limp to see a flop no mater what 4 cards I have but will play more low holding hands then high holding hands. Suited A or K high hands are good starting hands but if board pairs, you have to be willing to lay them down to possible boat hands.

1 of the pros once told me to avoid playing what she called tag cards ie; 234K off suit or 235J and like.
 
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1.)I recommend folding almost any hand prefolp that does not contain an ace.

2.) Play aggressive with hands containing an ace and 2 or 3 suited connected cards that can make the wheel.

3.)Hands with an ace and 3 middle cards are junk.

4.) Hands with an ace and a wheel card and a broadway card should see the flop and play pot control.

5.) never call bets after the flop where you are drawing to less than the nuts.

In low stakes PLO8 games online If you play tight aggressive you will have a huge edge over most low limit online players. Most people feel that PLO8 is a loose gambling game. So play tight aggressive bet pot most of the time when you make your nut cause you will get callers. Pound the pot if you make nut high with two low cards on the board cause fools will chase the nut low draw for a chance to win 1/2 of there money back.

Have fun playing because it is the best game of poker for a fair to good player to win, against alot of players that are there to gamble or because they are bored with holdem.

If you are serious about the game I recommend the book Pot Limit omaha poker by Jeff Hwang. There are some very good chapters on Hi/lo split. Also it is a very good read on Omaha hi
 
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I try to catch almost always a low hand.
Of course two aces is interesting, but not so important as in no-limit hold'em
 
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just try it

Yesterday i was playing omaha H/L no limit ( 1 dollar ) and try to go in hands only with low cards . Not working because you can win only 50% of pot with low , and high is almost dream to catch with low cards. its hard because in small tournament ( only 1 dollar ) so many fish who go all in with everything in preflop. Yesterday first 20 minutes in tournament there is no hand where i can see flop. All in all the time in preflop every hand first 20 min. Unbelive !!!!Ufffffffff:mad:
 
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With NL08, at lower stakes, you will pay so much rake because of split pots that it is almost impossible to make a profit. However if you need to get a few FPPs real fast then go for it.
 
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i think that in omaha you must see more flop's than any other , because even bad hand from pre flop may be good after it
 
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That is a common misconception dagG1. You need to play tight
 
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A good strategy is to try to think only about Low at first. If your cards don't have chances to hit Low and you don't have top pairs, suited connectors and moreover you cards of the same color it's time to fold.

There's a lot of bad advice in this thread, but the advice above is the worst. You should only be playing cards that can win high since there isn't a qualifying low every hand. The best starting hands can win both high and low, but likely low-only hands are not worth playing.

-HooDooKoo
 
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