How can you know someone hits a flush on the turn/river.

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Got knocked out of a tournament last 2 times because of a flush, i just didn't want to believe he had one. I bet the pot at the flop to make sure players with a flush draw would fold.

Was it a mistake to call his all-in raise at the turn?
 
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I have noticed in play that someone who is chasing a flush tends to min bet or check then call your bet. They just wanna see the next card as cheap as possible. A heavy bet after the flop usually wont push them out cause they still have 2 cards to come, if they dont hit it on the turn, try to push them off the pot then.
 
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Got knocked out of a tournament last 2 times because of a flush, i just didn't want to believe he had one. I bet the pot at the flop to make sure players with a flush draw would fold.

Was it a mistake to call his all-in raise at the turn?

Nobody is gonna fold a flush draw in the flop, so you're only inflating the pot by betting. Thats a mistake people make a lot, when they have top pair in a draw heavy flop.
The best play in this scenario is to check back, if the turn is a brick, then its time to make the draws have to pay.
 
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They show you their cards. Haha, just kidding. Watch for chasers. Push people out. I have seen lots of flushes lately. Over 50% of the time people are hitting their flushes on ACR it seems like so I try to play aggressive and push people off soft hands.
 
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i think you remember 50% but in fact its just 25% the math is always right .rgs tom
 
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I've been on both sides of that.
 
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Well u set yourself up for a take down, u should have controlled the pot, if the opponent was on a flush draw, he would just call, then if he gets there on the turn, he would raise your bet, and if he/she gets there on the river, they will blast you with an all in, sure u would have lost mb even 50% of your chips, but u left yourself the option to fold and save the rest of your chips, and the chance to go at it again, so bad play there buddy :D
 
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I normally check or raise 1BB max, so nobody fold and I earn more when it's over. ;)
 
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Got knocked out of a tournament last 2 times because of a flush, i just didn't want to believe he had one. I bet the pot at the flop to make sure players with a flush draw would fold.
...Don't assume a player is going to fold a draw just because they're getting incorrect odds to call. Also, you want players with draws to call with incorrect odds as you'll profit more from it in the long run. Just know how to slow it down if a scare card hits on the turn.

Was it a mistake to call his all-in raise at the turn?
...It would really depend on the strength of your hand and how much you would have to call vs the size of the pot. It's good to re-evaluate the strength of your hand when facing a big/strong bet or raise on a scary board.
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Well u set yourself up for a take down, u should have controlled the pot, if the opponent was on a flush draw, he would just call, then if he gets there on the turn, he would raise your bet, and if he/she gets there on the river, they will blast you with an all in, sure u would have lost mb even 50% of your chips, but u left yourself the option to fold and save the rest of your chips, and the chance to go at it again, so bad play there buddy :D
It's amazing how you could analyze OP's play without any information about the hand at all.

I read the same post you did and all I got was that OP lost to a flush on the turn when they called the all in. I must've missed all the other basic information, so maybe you could answer them for me.

What were the stack sizes?
What were the blinds?
What was OP's hand?
What was on the flop?

Thanks!
 
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It's pretty bad when someone just can't keep it simple like this post is. Just amazing to me. I think everyone has said enough to answer the point of the tread, so I'm not going to add anything. Except one thing. If you play long enough you will see things over and over until it is easier to tell when a player is on a draw. GL you all
 
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Yep I was being an ass in that post too. Please over look me for a day or two. The bad thing is that I don't even know why I'm like this today, or where it even came from. And I really pride myself for not going off the deep end very much. And I feel like I can give advice to other players about how to over come tilt like I was told and it works. But days like this one makes me wonder if I'm really in control or if it's just now coming to the surface. I guess I need to do some looking at myself more and not trying to save every player from this crazy poker world GL you all
 
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Why not believe a huge bet or an all in on the turn? Just fold and get your chances in the following hands. No good to gamble in a freeze out.
 
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It's amazing how you could analyze OP's play without any information about the hand at all.

I read the same post you did and all I got was that OP lost to a flush on the turn when they called the all in. I must've missed all the other basic information, so maybe you could answer them for me.

What were the stack sizes?
What were the blinds?
What was OP's hand?
What was on the flop?

Thanks!

Well in this case its really easy to figure out what went down, he said everything in his post, he bet the pot on the flop and called hes allin on the turn, so if i have two clubs in my hand and see two more on the flop, do u think really i would fold to a pot size bet, with two more cards to come??? No i will not fold, and since (now im gonna be devils advocate) i went allin post turn, and op said he did not believe i already had flush, its clear that i made my flush on the turn and thus allin, which OP called off and lost, its no brainer man, no more info is needed :D

Lets ask OP if i was right about this hand and how he should have played it :D
 
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If the flop has two cards of the same suit that I'm trying to raise to do more than usual. Makes opponent discard a card if he collects flash. When the third card of the same suit - expect a re-raise on the river from the enemy
 
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When i play a hand, i always make a ~3x raise to the future possible draw fold. If the players are too Tight, i made a C-Bet between 30~60% to make them fold.

I thing a flush draw doesn't worth a lot of chips.
 
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If you have top pair and hes drawing at a flush with no over cards, and your betting pot size, giving him 2-1 and hes calling off with a flush draw you shouldnt worry as hes about 4-1 against hitting it on the turn. if no scare card hits you pot bet it again.. then he can make the same mistake again.

if he pushes you all in on that flush draw flop, then you know hes going to the showdown and his odds jump to about 2-1 against.

you win 2 of 3 pots, if you can correctly put him on that flush draw and pull the trigger. dont let them draw cheap, dont be afraid to valuebet that top pair, or to call that all in you think is a flush draw
 
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Got knocked out of a tournament last 2 times because of a flush, i just didn't want to believe he had one. I bet the pot at the flop to make sure players with a flush draw would fold.

Was it a mistake to call his all-in raise at the turn?

Need more information:

Depends on your stack, your betting history, their stack, their betting history, the pot, etc.
 
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It's difficult to distinguish bluff or not, especial online poker.
Distinguish bluff or not, sometimes depend on intuition.
 
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You have to listen really,really closely,,,,and you can hear a little `yippppeeee!!` :p
 
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