How and when to slow down?

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wilk10

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the following question might give away my not so deep understanding of the game, but, hey, this is the learning poker sub-forum.

i usually play 2€ full ring with TAG/NIT style but i just had a session where i literally had good to amazing cards very often, no kidding, in a row i had: AJo A7s 44 99 AKo and playing my standard 22/17 range i had stats of 38/33 and seemed a random maniac playing ATC or quite, so after i made it to 4.10€ i told myself to slow down and play tighter: i cut down the iso raising vs a couple of limpers i had to my right and i didn't cold call stuff like KJo from BTN or completing the SB w T9o on a limped pot, which i normally do. thing is i still had good starting cards but the guy to my immediate left (38/12/44) picked on my being loose and started cold calling me all the time and raising my cbets on the flop or 3betting me light. i ended up with 2.90€ and quit after a kinda bad shove vs a shorty.

ok, i'm not complaying about having good cards, far from it, but should have i slowed down even more, playing 10/9 range for a while? how could i play back at the LAGish with position on me without 4betting light (i'm no annette obrestad..), or maybe after i reached 4.10€ i should have quit and be happier than i am now?

(if it helps to understand, the table had 2-3 fish, me and the other guy being LAGish and the rest were weak NITs)
 
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No need to quit just because you doubled up, especially with 2-3 fish at the table.

The 38/12 guys is definitely not LAGish - those are the stats of a loose-passive. Generally when LP players reraise/3bet, you should fold weak/medium strength hands as they probably have something big. I mean, are you sure he was adjusting to your apparent aggression? Maybe he was getting a good run of cards, just like you did.
 
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A loose passive player isn't going to raise your c-bet light very often. If he makes a play, it's more likely to be by floating, similar to calling behind pre- instead of bumping it.

Since he has position on you, it's much easier for him to disrupt your smooth sailing than for you to get much money from him. So don't focus on it too much. Your profit sources are on your right. As long as you don't let him take too much from you by trying to do too much OOP, you're likely to be fine.
 
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I wouldn't play A-7. It can get you in a lot of trouble.
 
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No need to quit just because you doubled up, especially with 2-3 fish at the table.

The 38/12 guys is definitely not LAGish - those are the stats of a loose-passive. Generally when LP players reraise/3bet, you should fold weak/medium strength hands as they probably have something big. I mean, are you sure he was adjusting to your apparent aggression? Maybe he was getting a good run of cards, just like you did.

uhmm, i think he was adjusting because he was acting any single time i entered a pot and almost never when i folded PF, not sure what happened when i was on the BB tho. anyways the whole thing didn't last too long as i quit right after the 2 fish donated all of their money to the rest of the table. the 38/12 take into account also the time before he started playing any pot i played where he was plain loose-weakish (tho less weak then the fish)
 
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Maybe this is just me, but it doesn't seem to me that a 22/17 is a Tag or a Nit at FR 2NL. If you are trying to play a very TAG almost Nit style at this level (which you should) you are going to be looking for something closer to a 15/13 or even less.

Anyway, at 2Nl people aren't really going to be noticing and adjusting to your current table image unless you are just running all over everybody every hand, raising every hand, and just going pretty crazy. If you were getting a good run of cards, and not just thinking you were running good and were invincible, then just kick back and enjoy it. If however, you were starting to feel unbeatable and were just playing a little bit wider range and adding in a few extra hands you don't normally play, then you should try to catch that and tighten back up to your normal game.
 
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yeah i know i should be tighter, but i do iso raise limpers and steal blinds if they're easy so that's a thing that might affect my stats. i'm working on becoming tighter in EP tho. the rest of the answer is just was i was looking for, thanx
 
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