Originally Posted by leandr0s
i have played enough freerolls to know how players there behave. basically apart from the very small minority of players who are there to play real poker and have fun, the most players tend to just get in these things for the lolz. they open shove 50BBs with 92s and call all ins with 6 high on the river. good thing is players are total douchebags. bad thing is the fields are huge, and the amounts of showdowns needed infinite. which means that even if you always get your money in with 70-30 advantage when it happends a lot of times your chances of actually making it to the money become negligible. and it really sucks playing a freeroll for 2-3 hours just to bubble because some idiot called your all in with a2o and badbeat your kings on the river. so here are some tips to help you increase your results, but remember in a field of 10k where making more than 1$ you need to finish top5 it means that even if you are double as good as anyone else your chances of making it a reality is 1/5000. if you can get your hands on freerolls with smaller fields ok, but mainly taking part in a freeroll is a waste of your time. making it first after 3-4 hours of playing ABC poker and making 4$ is not an achievement. but if you still want to try here are some personal advices.
1. dont worry about calling shoves light. people here shove any ace, any broadway combo, suited connectors, pocket pairs. everythink. what should really make you suspicious though is if someone RAISES 3BBs from early position when in previews hands they were shoving. they might have a premium hand so dont reraise them if you dont have anything
2. dont steal from the blinds or button. just dont. its not profitable yet without the antes
3. when you have a hand in the big blind and theres a whole table of limpers. make a huge raise. even all in.
4. dont care about gambling. if you have invested only some minutes of your life in that tournament and no money then its ok to gamble and if you lose so what? the reason you play is to win top3 so this means you need a big stack so go for it while you dont care about losing
people here have invested enough time in the tournament that they actually care about playing decently. that means you will not see people shoving ATC. still doesnt mean players here are good. the field is full of donkeys who are going to call anything in a big pot even if it means all in with their gutshot. they play their flush draws to the river no matter what the bet. so dont bluff them. and make big bets. if you connected with the flop dont just go half pot. if they have called 2 streets of value dont make a small bet on the river with the nuts. if they are gonna call you go all in. lets say you have AA and the flop is Q32 and then comes a 7. and they have called your bets both on the flop and turn they probably have a queen. they might even have 45. or even a flush draw. now its the time to make your move. the turn where they think they have outs. just shove it. is it 2x the pot? so what.. they are going to call you with all the above. they might suck out on you every now and then but getting them to put their stack in with 18% equity is $$$ in the long run.
if you are lucky enough to have gone through all the donkeys you are given a big chance to make some money. not a lot. but still... before the bubble people get tight as hell. they might even fold 90% of their stack on the BB. you might want to apply max pressure. especially when you have a stack that can afford to do so. if you are sitting in the big blind and theres 3-4 limpers behind you. and you have 44. thats probably a profitable shove. especially if you cover them. but mainly its better to wait for postflop plays. much easier to make oney and also the risk is smaller. the only problem is they dont know about bet sizing in that stage so they might bet half pot like they have a monster and call your 1/4th bet with air. so try and bet bigger when you have it. again the turn is the time to make your move,,,
In many ways you're very right, yet very very wrong.
First it's easy to win large field freerolls on a regular basis. I'm guessing you're saying this and a few other things out of frustration to suck-outs?
Your AA got beat out by 8/9 suited where he had no business calling?
95% of the time we get "donked" out of a tournament the fold equity was greater than the shove equity anyway.
The best advice for regular cashing in any large field micro stakes, and freeroll tournament is play tight, aggressive, fundamental poker.
Don't play fancy poker. Not in the beginning, middle, bubble or final table.
is for 3 handed, and heads up play unless you're re-stealing blinds or have a good read on your opp and defending your own blind.
Also before you shove: Even with AA. Do I need to shove or call a shove???
I hear people say: I never fold AA, KK, QQ pre-flop.
If you're sitting with M>= 30 then why would you consider shoving with anything an equitable decision?
Even better advice: Don't shoot for first, or a double up. Keep pots minimal. Fight to build your stack by BB comfortability ( for those who don't know m zones. Not the same but a similar way of thinking ). If you can get KK to win you 5 to 10 big blinds you just moved your survivability up even more.
While the "donks" are gambling, be moving up.
Don't worry about "where will I be when the blinds are huge?"
That's one reason moderately skilled poker players stress and gamble with a donk. Worry about where will I be later, and you'll end up out sooner.
Play your tight aggressive game. Don't worry about teaching the donks. Watch them. Exploit them.
Anyway maybe that will help.
I play a freeroll while multi-tabling SNG's or MTT's and rarely even look what's going on until the end stages.